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American prison labor means longer unemployment lines
Foxnews.com ^ | September 16, 2012 | Elizabeth Prann

Posted on 09/16/2012 4:01:02 PM PDT by vet7279

American Apparel, the Selma, Ala., based military clothing manufacturer closed one of its plants and continues to downsize others due to the loss of some of its contracts to FPI. According retired Air Force colonel and spokesman Kurt Wilson, the company laid off 255 employees and cut the hours of 190 employees this year alone. So private workers end up losing their jobs to prisoners.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: americanapparel; economy; employment; fpi; jobs; prisonlabor; unemployment
So, if we commit a crime we can get a job?
1 posted on 09/16/2012 4:01:06 PM PDT by vet7279
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To: vet7279

It might be the only way!


2 posted on 09/16/2012 4:05:23 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: vet7279

Prisoners deserve nothing.

No jobs, books, TV, sports, no visitors but their lawyers, No nothing.

Bread and water and that’s it.

This is a travesty.


3 posted on 09/16/2012 4:07:10 PM PDT by Emperor Palpatine ("On the ascent of Olympus, what's a botched bar or two?" -Artur Schnabel)
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To: vet7279

The labor they should be doing is what we employ a lot of state and federal workers to do.


4 posted on 09/16/2012 4:07:14 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: cripplecreek

No pay for it, either. Not one penny.

Bring back the roadside chain-gangs.

To Hades with this criminal filth


5 posted on 09/16/2012 4:09:06 PM PDT by Emperor Palpatine ("On the ascent of Olympus, what's a botched bar or two?" -Artur Schnabel)
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To: vet7279

I am all for prisoners reasonably earning their keep, staying busy, and perhaps gaining some job skills and some money to work with when they get out.

But rather than impact private business it seems to me they should do stuff like grow their own food, make license plates, clean roadsides, make their own food, make prison clothes, stuff like that.

I suppose that might impact private business in that private companies wouldn’t bid on the above. But it would save taxpayer money, I think as well.


6 posted on 09/16/2012 4:12:41 PM PDT by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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To: vet7279

Wow, now we’re just like China! Obama, Turd Worldist-in-Chief..


7 posted on 09/16/2012 4:12:51 PM PDT by livius
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To: Emperor Palpatine

The travesty is sitting in the White Hut.

Yes. Let’s stop businesses from doing what they can to survive. Let’s make sure more fail.

And let’s increase the amount of cheap chinese crap we buy.

I’m sure lots of businesses would love to hire expensive union labor instead of hiring criminals.


8 posted on 09/16/2012 4:20:58 PM PDT by bigheadfred
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To: Emperor Palpatine; vet7279
Send all serious criminals to work farms in Alaska where they can grow and raise their own food, supplemented by wild game shot by tourist hunters who pay for the privilege. Hard work will reduce one’s sentence, laziness or trouble-making will lengthen it. Escapees will have nowhere to go and the problem of surviving. IIRC, the Federal government owns almost all the land in Alaska and can charge “rent” to the various states for taking on one of their prisoners. Might be a good job for a private firm.
9 posted on 09/16/2012 4:26:06 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: GeronL

http://www.Indeed.com

http://www.Jobvertise.com

http://www.NationJob.com

http://www.Careerbuilder.com


10 posted on 09/16/2012 4:28:42 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: Emperor Palpatine
This is a travesty.

Yes, it is. We have more people in the criminal justice system than any other "civilized" nation on the planet and they still can't buy cigarettes or booze with the pittance they get paid for what union thugs outside the system would be paid $40 / hour and be free to wander around and spend their money however they choose.

11 posted on 09/16/2012 4:32:15 PM PDT by elkfersupper ( Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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To: vet7279

Just wait until sequestration hits and 120,000 troops lose employment plus 150,000 civilians and contractors plus 300,000 spin-off jobs are axed!


12 posted on 09/16/2012 4:33:56 PM PDT by cookcounty (Kagan and Sotomayor side with Joe Wilson: -------Obama DID lie!)
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To: Emperor Palpatine
Bring back the roadside chain-gangs.

Then you would put SEIU members out of work.

It is SEIU members and other government union laborers who make prevailing wage (i.e., $58 per hour plus benefits) who are now doing all the work that prisoners won't do.

13 posted on 09/16/2012 4:34:43 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds.)
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To: vet7279

I saw this TV segment on the Fox Report. It said that prisoners are paid between $.23 to $1.15 per hr.

AND yet:

“American Apparel charges $29.44 per uniform, but the FPI uniform costs $34.18 – a 15 percent difference.”

The Fox Report graph cited dibbs.bsm.dla.mil as the source for this information.


14 posted on 09/16/2012 4:41:03 PM PDT by thouworm (.)
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To: cripplecreek

Or what we let illegal aliens do. Prisoners are perfect for farm labor. Seasonally available, hard work, helps feed everyone else for cheap.


15 posted on 09/16/2012 4:41:35 PM PDT by tbw2
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To: Persevero
they should do stuff like grow their own food, make license plates, clean roadsides

It costs far more to manage them using government union hirelings than what their work output is worth. It's cheaper to just warehouse them. Government schools are in a similar situation.

16 posted on 09/16/2012 4:45:19 PM PDT by Reeses
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To: cookcounty

You know it’s bad when Obama tried to give a waiver to the federal law saying you have to notify everyone 90 days in advance of a major layoff like what will happen with Sequestration.


17 posted on 09/16/2012 4:53:56 PM PDT by tbw2
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To: vet7279

No, it’s not a regular job.

I don’t think they make but a few cents an hour.

and if they save the government having to bid and spend a lot more money, then GREAT!

Now if the govt would let taxpayers keep that portion then it will boost jobs (especially done on larger scale)

The government should utilize prison labor FIRST, before hiring even one federal employee.


18 posted on 09/16/2012 4:54:02 PM PDT by DrewsMum
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To: thouworm
I once purchased a tremendous amount of furniture from UNICOR ~ their furniture division. Great stuff. Looked good. Very serviceable.

The additional costs arose out of the CLOSE supervision given to prisoners with saw blades and machinery!

Plus, at the end of the line they packed everything in large boxes. We were told to just leave the boxes alone a few days and not start unpacking ~ until any prisoner who'd hidden away in there decided to get out!

That way we'd avoid a confrontation ...........

Civilian on civilian production and package is less costly ~ but like a dozen former federal wardens told me today's prisoners aren't happy just sitting there staring out of a window ~ they are thinking all the time about how to escape or kill you. This gets that nonsense off their minds!

19 posted on 09/16/2012 6:50:21 PM PDT by muawiyah
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