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To: LucyT
168 gr HPBT is the favorite 1,000 yard round for Camp Perry target shooting. It's illegal for use in combat per the Geneva Convention. Geneva requires FMJ. No hollow points. I don't think there is a big target shooting competition coming up. The targets are domestic. Humans. Us.
18 posted on 09/14/2012 9:09:04 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: Myrddin

are civilian authorities bound by the Geneva Convention?


44 posted on 09/14/2012 10:05:43 PM PDT by SteveH (First they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win.)
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To: Myrddin
"168 gr HPBT is the favorite 1,000 yard round for Camp Perry target shooting. It's illegal for use in combat per the Geneva Convention. Geneva requires FMJ. No hollow points."

That's incorrect. First of all it's the Hague Convention of 1899 that prohibits the use of easily expanding/deforming projectiles. Second, our snipers are issued rounds such as the MK316, which is a 7.62 x 51 featuring a 175 gr Sierra HPBT.

"A 1991 US Army Judge Advocate General (JAG, the Army’s legal arm) decision held that certain hollow point projectiles were not subject to the Hague Convention’s prohibition of such projectiles for use in warfare, as long as the purpose of the “open tip” was to provide better accuracy or ballistic shape, instead of to enhance bullet expansion."

50 posted on 09/14/2012 10:16:30 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Myrddin
It's illegal for use in combat per the Geneva Convention. Geneva requires FMJ.

That's not correct.

Firstly, the Hague Conventions, not the Geneva Conventions, govern The Use of Bullets Which Expand or Flatten Easily in the Human Body.

Secondly, the 168gr HPBT favored by long range rifle competitors and military snipers is NOT banned by the Hague Convention, as it does not appreciably expand on impact. The hollow point is nearly microscopic, and collapses rather than expanding.

86 posted on 09/15/2012 9:00:18 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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