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UK Government Lawyer to European High Court: Christians Should Leave Faith at Home or Resign
National Organization for Marriage (NOM) Blog ^ | Sep 8 2012 | Brian Brown

Posted on 09/10/2012 8:07:56 AM PDT by scottjewell

From UK Christian Institute: "Christians in Britain should leave their faith at home or accept that they might have to get another job, a Government lawyer has told the European Court of Human Rights.

The comment came as the Court heard the cases of four Christians, including that of registrar Lillian Ladele who was disciplined for her stance on civil partnerships. All four say the UK Government failed to protect their religious liberty.

Dinah Rose QC, representing Miss Ladele, told the Court that her client had been used as “an instrument” of social change by her former employer Islington Borough Council.

She warned the judges that the submission from the United Kingdom’s Government entails “permitting Islington to treat Miss Ladele as an instrument for the propagation of its public message.

“And we submit that to treat a person, an individual, as a means and not an aim in themselves, is fundamentally incompatible with individual human dignity and incompatible with convention rights.”

James Eadie QC, acting on behalf of the Government, argued that the rights of the four Christians were only protected in private, and that they could not “insist on being able to manifest their beliefs in any way they choose”.

He argued that a Christian “under difficulty” is not discriminated against if they have the choice of “resigning and moving to a different job”."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: fascism; govtabuse; homosexualagenda; moralabsolutes; rapeofliberty; religion; tyranny; waronchristians
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Will be the same here. The more rights are granted to special interest groups, the more irrelevant Christian faith must become. Leave it aside, or look for another job.
1 posted on 09/10/2012 8:08:01 AM PDT by scottjewell
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To: scottjewell

So much for The Church of England.


2 posted on 09/10/2012 8:09:39 AM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: scottjewell

They will NOT even think of applying these same rules to Muslims


3 posted on 09/10/2012 8:10:03 AM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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"He argued that a Christian “under difficulty” is not discriminated against if they have the choice of “resigning and moving to a different job”."

Wouldn't that argument ALWAYS apply to anyone claiming job discrimination?

4 posted on 09/10/2012 8:12:07 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: GeronL

Sad but quite true. A huge double standard there.


5 posted on 09/10/2012 8:12:28 AM PDT by scottjewell
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To: scottjewell

If we are entering the Last Days, and we are, having to leave a job or leave your faith is only the beginning. Very soon it will be leave your head or leave your faith.


6 posted on 09/10/2012 8:13:33 AM PDT by Dogbert41 ("...The people of Jerusalem are strong, because the Lord Almighty is their God" Zech. 12:5)
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Wouldn't that argument ALWAYS apply to anyone claiming job discrimination?

Yeah. Go ask a woman if she agrees with the following: a woman could not sue a male boss demanding sex for a promotion since she could just go find another job.
7 posted on 09/10/2012 8:14:21 AM PDT by DaveInDallas
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To: scottjewell

However, you Muzzies can do what you like.


8 posted on 09/10/2012 8:14:37 AM PDT by SkyDancer ("OF COURSE I TALK TO MYSELF - Sometimes I need an expert opinion")
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9 posted on 09/10/2012 8:17:43 AM PDT by KC_Lion ( Wherever I find myself standing, I forever stand with Israel.)
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To: scottjewell

These rules won’t apply to Muslims and the reasons are obvious. Maybe Christians will need to gain “respect” in the same manner, unfortunately.


10 posted on 09/10/2012 8:18:31 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: scottjewell

As soon as liberals leave theirs.


11 posted on 09/10/2012 8:31:41 AM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult (Liberals make unrealistic demands on reality and reality doesn't oblige them.)
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To: circlecity

Of course, that’s why it’s a terrible argument. Someone claiming discrimination due to race, or sexual harassment, could be told the same: “Then look for another place of work.”


12 posted on 09/10/2012 8:32:47 AM PDT by scottjewell
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To: Dogbert41

“If we are entering the Last Days, and we are....”

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Let’s not be too certain of that.

Things were bad and worse for the people in the concentration camps, and they too were thinking and hoping that the Last Days were near.

That was seventy years ago.


13 posted on 09/10/2012 8:35:26 AM PDT by 353FMG (The US Constitution is only as good as those who enforce it.)
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To: scottjewell

Dinah Rose

Uber progressive Jewish barrister

She also attacks Jewish conservatives too over conversions

She fights Holocaust deniers but I bet she is a Pali advocate

She is a Godless fruitbat

Being this open as an anti Christian bigot would have been unheard of not long ago


14 posted on 09/10/2012 8:35:43 AM PDT by wardaddy (this white hair don't cover up my redneck......)
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Actually it is i who is wrong

MS Rose who i am familiar with from her usual human rights advocacy is actually the advocate in this case for the aggrieved party....surprisingly

She is normally rather ACLUish

My apologies to her...i know i must have ruined her day


15 posted on 09/10/2012 8:43:15 AM PDT by wardaddy (this white hair don't cover up my redneck......)
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Rose is also Assange’s lawyer....for the record


16 posted on 09/10/2012 8:47:30 AM PDT by wardaddy (this white hair don't cover up my redneck......)
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It would be interesting to find observant Jews and Hindus and see if they would be similarly discriminated against; I think it likely. But Muslims? I wonder when the real British people who are not yet Muslims or atheists or progressives will stand up against this.

17 posted on 09/10/2012 1:12:06 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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It would be interesting to find observant Jews and Hindus and see if they would be similarly discriminated against; I think it likely. But Muslims? I wonder when the real British people who are not yet Muslims or atheists or progressives will stand up against this.

18 posted on 09/10/2012 1:46:40 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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utter B/S, muslims get appeased Christians get told to piss off.

Queen Elizabeth the first is turning in her grave right now at how England the country she married has turned into a perverted paradise for some and an islamic sharia law state for others while the may others who are English just go and collect thir welfare, including my borther and sister, complain the immigrants are taking everything but they never do a damn thing about it

To think I had friends die and get injured for a country which doesn’t give a crap


19 posted on 09/10/2012 2:10:59 PM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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You know, manc - I would think there are some in Britain who do give a crap and are thinking about what course of action to take. Look how the Netherlands practically went to hell with Muslims, and look what Geert Wilder and his supporters have accomplished. They are now rolling back the Muslim invasion. I think people in the US are also getting fed up to the back teeth with this and like crap.

I am not without hope, at all. The more the muzzies/commies/faggots play their hand, the clearer the evil is, and the easier it is for regular people to see it and finally say “Enough is enough!”


20 posted on 09/10/2012 2:58:30 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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