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When They Come For Your Guns, You Will Turn Them Over
Whiskey & Gunpowder ^ | Aug 1st, 2012 | Jim Karger

Posted on 09/08/2012 7:57:38 PM PDT by bopdowah

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Direct resistance against an authoritarian state would be fatal. And useless. But multiple weapons can and should be hidden, stored away against the day when there is no choice. We are not there yet. More dangerous than the government is a populace in which more than 50 percent of the people would vote for those who openly promise to subvert religious liberty, destroy our economy and subordinate America's interests to those of Vladmir Putin.
141 posted on 09/08/2012 10:26:11 PM PDT by Godwin1
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To: JRandomFreeper
I'm glad to see you on this thread. What do you think about this possibility? You are not the kind to go off half-cocked/knee jerk reaction/testosterone threats. Would our local cops try to take our guns if told to do so? Would our Texas Rangers and National Guard try to take our guns if told to do so?
142 posted on 09/08/2012 10:26:57 PM PDT by Marcella (Conservatism is dead. PREPARE)
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To: GeronL

No, it looks like they’re using these agencies budgets to dry up supply, and drive up prices.

There’s still no evidence anybody’s getting any training.


143 posted on 09/08/2012 10:36:31 PM PDT by G Larry (Progressives are Regressive because their objectives devolve to the lowest common denominator.)
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To: piytar
"And after the state butchers a few dozen civilians, what happens next?"

Exactly.
People tend to forget that it is in our nature. Hundreds could be be killed... initially. Then, Flight 93 syndrome takes over. It's amazing how people will unite despite their differences in order to defeat a common enemy. The collective minds in government know this all too well so I just don't see it happening.

144 posted on 09/08/2012 10:50:22 PM PDT by FunkyZero (... I've got a Grand Piano to prop up my mortal remains)
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To: jmacusa

That initial assault went real well didn’t it?. Imagine that on a large scale. The atf assault squad would have been encapsulated by “neighbors” and eliminated. Large scale confiscation is not possible in this or most countrys


145 posted on 09/08/2012 11:00:33 PM PDT by Figment
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To: jmacusa

Fire is still a pretty good way to take out armored vehicles. They would probably have gotten a few


146 posted on 09/08/2012 11:05:51 PM PDT by Figment
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

“If things go down......your weapons will be confiscated.....no questions asked.”

Cops who think like that will be in for a big surprise. Im willing to die for my rights because I want my daughter to know that her dad did everything he could for this country. All of my friends are ready if the SHTF.


147 posted on 09/08/2012 11:25:39 PM PDT by hillarys cankles
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To: bopdowah
Many of the comments seem to be based on a small-scale scenario. "If they come for my guns..." without fully realizing the sheer magnitude of a nationwide effort to confiscate guns. By the time they've gone after people's firearms for a day or two and the word gets out, every subsequent day will be more and more difficult and we patriots will rally to defend our rights. The keeping and bearing of arms by the citizenry will easily overwhelm any deputized forces trying to deprive us of that right.
148 posted on 09/08/2012 11:27:37 PM PDT by Two Kids' Dad ((((( )))))
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To: bopdowah

The comments are all referencing *our* LEOs and military - and how THEY will react.

But what about I have read ALL the *foreign* military-like *troops* that have arrived into this country, russians, chinese, whatnot ? And training with ours.

Clearly the perps have already considered that ours will not go after their own, and have done the foreign mercenary thing. Doesn’t that change a rosey scenario into a NOT so.


149 posted on 09/08/2012 11:40:10 PM PDT by PraiseTheLord
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To: hillarys cankles

I agree, because the last 4 years have angered so many—we know what the hell is going on; many people are unemployed due to this fraud in the WH and his policies to neuter this great country.

When you have little to lose (those of us without children and without work), you’re more free than the gubmint” realizes. And this “gubmint” has done everything it can to SEE to it that people are unemployed; little do they know, they’ve manufactured their opposing force. How ironic.

If you’re a Christian, you realize the enemy IS communism. And fighting it is our duty.


150 posted on 09/08/2012 11:44:04 PM PDT by Mortrey (Impeach President Soros)
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To: DesertRhino

Excellent post, DesertRhino!!!


151 posted on 09/09/2012 12:08:48 AM PDT by dsm69
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To: DesertRhino

God, that is gut wrenching. He opened my eyes to the evil of socialism. His books should be mandatory reading from junior high on.


152 posted on 09/09/2012 12:13:35 AM PDT by Eagles6
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To: Two Kids' Dad
Many of the comments seem to be based on a small-scale scenario. "If they come for my guns..." without fully realizing the sheer magnitude of a nationwide effort to confiscate guns. By the time they've gone after people's firearms for a day or two and the word gets out, every subsequent day will be more and more difficult and we patriots will rally to defend our rights. The keeping and bearing of arms by the citizenry will easily overwhelm any deputized forces trying to deprive us of that right.

Well put, 'Two Kids' Dad', I couldn't have said it better myself.

Law enforcement simply cannot logistically pull off a massive national gun confiscation effort. They simply do not have the numbers, even with National Guard and Military reinforcements, to pull it off in a short period of time - it would take months and months to go door to door, especially in states where there is NO gun registration!

Unless the dictatorial authorities shut down all internet and telephone/cellular communications, word would circulate nationally very quickly, even if the lame stream media remained silent, after the first 24 - 48 hours of this gun confiscation effort amongst Patriots and likely by day three, you would see massive organized resistance to any future confiscation efforts most everywhere.

Like some posters have also pointed out, the families of the cops live amongst the public, as well as the families of that states National Guard members and would likely be targeted by organized resistance groups. If this massive gun confiscation effort was ever to be undertaken, these now organized Patriots could take the families of these cops and National Guardsmen into a sort of 'protective custody' to help ensure 'good behavior' by the cops or National Guardsmen towards the Patriots to the point where they refuse orders to confiscate any weapons from any Citizens, provide valuable intelligence to Patriot groups relative to future movements/plans of government gun confiscation efforts or even encouraging the cops/National Guardsmen to desert their jobs/posts in order to ensure their relatives in Patriot custody are not harmed.

Of course, if there is seriously any nationwide effort to confiscate guns under consideration, it wouldn't suprise me to see plans where all the families of cops, National Guardsmen and Active Duty Military moved into safe, onbase, guarded dependent housing just prior to the commencement of any effort at massive nationwide gun confiscation.

153 posted on 09/09/2012 12:54:28 AM PDT by dsm69
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To: bopdowah

Article is bullcrap defeatism, I read it a while back.

Just remember, when/if “they” come for them

YOU ONLY NEED TO GET ONE...


154 posted on 09/09/2012 1:01:15 AM PDT by Axenolith (Government blows, and that which governs least, blows least...)
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To: bopdowah

Then I will die face down in the street in a pool of my own blood. But not before I make more than a few widows and orphans on my way to the great here after. You seem to forget that most of us have children, brothers, sisters, nieces, and nephews in the armed forces and the police forces of the United States; do you really think that orders are thicker than blood. I am an old man now; do you really think I am afraid of dieing, do you really think I have forgotten the trade I learned in 3rd Recon. To quote General Jackson “KILL EM, KILL EM ALL”. I will always choose to die on my feet, NOT ON MY KNEES!


155 posted on 09/09/2012 1:07:07 AM PDT by 5th MEB (Progressives in the open; --- FIRE FOR EFFECT!!)
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To: PraiseTheLord; Travis McGee
But what about I have read ALL the *foreign* military-like *troops* that have arrived into this country, russians, chinese, whatnot ? And training with ours.

Clearly the perps have already considered that ours will not go after their own, and have done the foreign mercenary thing. Doesn’t that change a rosey scenario into a NOT so.

PTL, I do not know if you have ever heard of Freeper Travis McGee (Matthew Bracken). He is the author of a trilogy of books titled "Enemies: Foreign and Domestic" (EFAD). The third book of his EFAD trilogy, "Foreign Enemies and Traitors", is based on your scenario of a rogue U.S. Government having to bring in foreign mercenaries to force earthquake survivors and others into concentration camps after U.S. troops refused. I recommend you read his whole EFAD trilogy - all three books are good reads. Links to his Freeper Page and website are below:

http://www.freerepublic.com/~travismcgee/

http://enemiesforeignanddomestic.com/index.htm

156 posted on 09/09/2012 1:11:35 AM PDT by dsm69
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To: bopdowah
Basically, what the guy writes is true.

A government will not compel people to give up their power until such government believes it has the strength and ability to do so.

What many here write is also true that the American government as it presently exists does not have the necessary power to force the citizens to disarm.

157 posted on 09/09/2012 1:19:33 AM PDT by fso301
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To: Lazamataz

Laz: Why did I know that was you before I read the poster?
GITEM; heh, heh.


158 posted on 09/09/2012 1:19:45 AM PDT by 5th MEB (Progressives in the open; --- FIRE FOR EFFECT!!)
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To: Jack Hammer
“One of America’s favorite fantasies - the troops coming for the guns. Obama has shown that he needs to do no such thing; the aggregation of unwarranted and blatantly unconstitutional government power is better done subtly, one step at a time, decade after decade, like boiling the frog.”

Oh Jack you have it so right.

When I was in college, I life-guarded after classes. One day I noticed a ridiculously ugly tattoo on one of the senior citizens that came to swim at night. I was so rude back then and I asked if she let her grand-kid write on her or something.

You can imagine my complete awe and disbelief when she told me she was a holocaust survivor. I will never forget how kind and patient she was with me. She answered my questions and shared her story with me for hours, and I know I must have stared at her like she was some sort of mythological creature. I was horrified by even the smallest details she shared with me, I was blown away by her deep unwavering faith, and I was humbled by her practice to always thank God for her blessings.

But the thing I remember most was when I asked her why her family and neighbors would so willingly walk down the streets to the trains that would take them to Auschwitz.

I can hear her say, “I was a Polish Jew and the government promised to protect us.”

At first they just had to register on a list. Then they just had to wear a ID. Next it was curfews and rules, but only for their own protection. She said when they were told to board trains, the Polish government promised it was to keep them safe and that they would be returned to their homes safely.

She said they trusted the government. Her name was Rose.

159 posted on 09/09/2012 1:34:37 AM PDT by Casie
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To: Jack Black

My daughter calls me a paleocon, I consider it a compliment.


160 posted on 09/09/2012 1:44:02 AM PDT by 5th MEB (Progressives in the open; --- FIRE FOR EFFECT!!)
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