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The Nader Effect In Play After Virginia's Decision [Obama Godsend?]
YahooNews ^ | September 04, 2012

Posted on 09/04/2012 9:37:06 PM PDT by Steelfish

The Nader Effect In Play After Virginia's Decision By Scott Bomboy

A decision in Virginia to allow Virgil Goode on the presidential ballot could shake up the national election. And Libertarian candidate Gary Johnson has now come into the spoiler picture.

For the past few weeks, Goode, the Constitutional party presidential candidate, and Johnson have been afterthoughts in the national presidential campaign involving President Barack Obama and Mitt Romney.

But Goode won the right on Tuesday to appear on the Virginia ballot, in a move that could hurt Romney’s chances of taking the key swing state in November.

And now Ron Paul has come with some kind words about Johnson, the former New Mexico governor who will appear on many state ballots as a presidential candidate.

Johnson would be a potential factor in states like Colorado, Nevada and New Mexico, and he could hurt either Obama or Romney, depending on how the political winds are blowing by November.

Republicans have vowed to prove that Goode, who has held various political offices in Virginia, doesn’t have enough legal petition signatures to run.

Johnson faces similar challenges. Last week, his campaign said the GOP has challenged his ballot presence in Michigan, Pennsylvania, the District of Columbia, Iowa and Ohio.

In August, Goode lost his quest to get on Pennsylvania’s ballot. One national poll had Johnson with 5.3 percent of the national vote in July, while a poll this summer in Virginia had Goode with 9 percent of that state’s presidential vote.

In reality, even 1 percent of the vote in a battleground state could determine the national election, like Ralph Nader did in 2000.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: goode2012; obama2012; rino; thirdparty; va2012; virgilgoode; virginia2012
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To: Antoninus

If you cannot organize enough people to take over the GOP, you are NEVER going to organize enough people to do the much harder work of setting up a viable third party.

Scream and posture all you want, we know the truth. YOUR candidate did not win the GOP nomination so in a fit of childish spite you are doing everything you can to “Get even” with the GOP for not doing what YOU wanted.

That is petulant, childish and stupid. So lie to yourself all you want, the rest of us know full well what the sour grapes choir is doing here


41 posted on 09/05/2012 9:24:11 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: MNJohnnie

Agree.

Given the way this looks, Goode is more likely working for the left than anything else.


42 posted on 09/05/2012 9:38:15 AM PDT by reasonisfaith (Why do you seek the living among the dead? (Luke 24:5))
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To: MNJohnnie
Scream and posture all you want, we know the truth. YOUR candidate did not win the GOP nomination so in a fit of childish spite you are doing everything you can to “Get even” with the GOP for not doing what YOU wanted.

My candidate was outspent 55-1 in the last primary that mattered and still only lost by 7%.

I'm not screaming at all. I'm just telling you that your two-bit liberal Republican candidate doesn't have a right to my vote.

It's still a free country and I can vote for whoever I want. If Romney loses because he couldn't consolidate the conservative base, that's his fault--and yours--not those folks who refuse to vote for someone they consider a fraud.
43 posted on 09/05/2012 9:49:05 AM PDT by Antoninus (Sorry, gone rogue.)
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To: SoFloFreeper
Do you know if he is on enough states to achieve 270 electoral votes??

Here's the current tally.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virgil_Goode_presidential_campaign,_2012#Ballot_Access

He's at 210 currently with "more on the way" according to the campaign. The way this is going, he could be a factor. I'm not surprised the Romney-bots are starting to freak out.
44 posted on 09/05/2012 9:51:49 AM PDT by Antoninus (Sorry, gone rogue.)
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To: Steelfish
I honestly don't think even Goode and Johnson on the ballot will be enough for Obama. Does anyone remember John Anderson and his bid running against both Reagan and Carter? Republicans then worried that Anderson would ruin it for Reagan. He didn't. He hardly got votes at all. THAT election was just too important in too many voters minds. This year is eerily similar.

My opinion is that Goode and Johnson will have no more impact than Anderson.

Obama is going down. It's 1980 all over again.

45 posted on 09/05/2012 10:06:11 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: MNJohnnie

If I agreed with Romney on 85% of the issues I would be voting for him. Romney agrees with Obama on more issues than he agrees with me. I will be happy to see Obama gone but sad that the liberals will still be in control, and that good well meaning people will think that it is a victory. BTW Chicken Little’s the sky is falling story is a children’s story. Real adults know it is not true.


46 posted on 09/05/2012 10:19:46 AM PDT by brightright
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To: brightright
Lie to yourself all you want, the rest of us who been around here know better. We see your sort of clown every election year.

Either you are Demobot lying about your real agenda in the hope your fake uber conservative posturing will give you a fake gloss of credibility or you are a complete political moron who has NO clue at all how politics in the US works. So which is it? Are you a political fraud or a political moron?

47 posted on 09/05/2012 10:38:16 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: Antoninus
Reagan had some words of advice for your sort of 100%er.

By Ronald Reagan in his autobiography An American Life

“When I began entering into the give and take of legislative bargaining in Sacramento, a lot of the most radical conservatives who had supported me during the election didn’t like it. “Compromise” was a dirty word to them and they wouldn’t face the fact that we couldn’t get all of what we wanted today. They wanted all or nothing and they wanted it all at once. If you don’t get it all, some said, don’t take anything. I’d learned while negotiating union contracts that you seldom got everything you asked for. And I agreed with FDR, who said in 1933: ‘I have no expectations of making a hit every time I come to bat. What I seek is the highest possible batting average.’ If you got seventy-five or eighty percent of what you were asking for, I say, you take it and fight for the rest later, and that’s what I told these radical conservatives who never got used to it.

48 posted on 09/05/2012 10:44:29 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: MNJohnnie

Reagan would not satisfy some of these crack pots.


49 posted on 09/05/2012 10:46:37 AM PDT by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: hinckley buzzard

Exactly - the “purists” who rather obama get 4 more years than try something different in the name of so called “principle”.

A bunch of a delusional sickos.


50 posted on 09/05/2012 10:49:58 AM PDT by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: MNJohnnie

They are disgraceful by actually trying to convince us and them that they are doing Gods’ work by handing obama 4 more years.

And just what do these delusional crack pots and clinical psychotics think is going to happen in 2016?

Are these freaks of the mind that a magical conservative is going to appear in 2016 to save the day?

LOL. These nut jobs and phonies are faker than a $3 dollar bill, every last one of them.


51 posted on 09/05/2012 10:54:03 AM PDT by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: FlingWingFlyer
Insulting those who do not agree with you on all issues--or personalities--is not the way to win over anyone to your point of view. One needs to distinguish between those rabid foes, who get all frothy over their "reform" agendas, and those who simply do not see things as you do. Conservatives need to learn how to persuade the latter, or the former (the Obama & Pelosi types) will continue to succeed in remaking America in a form that is unacceptable to any patriotic American.

While I am clearly more Conservative than either Goode or Romney, I am strongly supporting Romney for the reasons stated in Romney/Ryan.

This does not mean that I do not respect Virgil Goode, who would have had my support if some of the other Republican candidates had gotten the nomination.

But, again, with the right sort of persuasion, most of the votes that would otherwise go to Goode, can be won for Romney. Insulting Goode, is just not the key to winning those votes.

William Flax

52 posted on 09/05/2012 11:08:45 AM PDT by Ohioan
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To: Antoninus

Yes, well, I cannot speak for “Romney-bots”, but I can speak for myself, a conservative who wants Obamugabe removed from the Oval Office.

I will be quite upset if Mr. Goode gets votes from those who, in a strict two party race, would go for Romney.

Our Republic is on the line, and though Romney isn’t the greatest man who ever walked the earth, it’ll either be him or Obamugabe in the White House next January...and Romney is the preferred choice.


53 posted on 09/05/2012 11:16:20 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: MNJohnnie

If I lied to myself I could be like you and believe how all will be well if only Romney wins. You do not defend your position with anything but childish insults and name calling. You and the Liberal RINOs are the reason Obama is President, and sadly you will never change.


54 posted on 09/05/2012 11:24:58 AM PDT by brightright
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To: brightright
brightright Since Apr 17, 2012

Nice try but we see your sort of leftist clown bot every election year. When you have to lie about your real agenda in the vain hope people will pay attention to you, you have all ready lost the debate.

55 posted on 09/05/2012 11:31:23 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: MNJohnnie
Mitt Romney is not a compromise for our side. He's a defeat, plain and simple.

Conservatives lost the 2012 election about 4 months ago. All that's left is re-arranging the deck-chairs.

I'm looking ahead to 2014/2016.
56 posted on 09/05/2012 1:31:26 PM PDT by Antoninus (Sorry, gone rogue.)
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To: Antoninus

Spare us the self serving drivel. Your position is pure sour grapes whining because your personal political opinions cannot be imposed 100% for you the way you feel they should be.

You are merely rationalize your political cowardice and laziness by wrapping it in a fake glaze of sanctimonious “principal”.


57 posted on 09/05/2012 1:36:22 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: brightright

Oh please - how many other straw man arguments do you have to support giving obama 4 more years?


58 posted on 09/05/2012 1:50:09 PM PDT by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: MNJohnnie
You are merely rationalize your political cowardice and laziness by wrapping it in a fake glaze of sanctimonious “principal”.

Yawn. Your method of "convincing" others to vote for your hideously awful candidate is weak at best. Go sell it somewhere else.
59 posted on 09/05/2012 1:50:43 PM PDT by Antoninus (Sorry, gone rogue.)
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To: MNJohnnie

Wow what a revelation. Had you asked I would have told you this is a new account. Please show where I lied. Name calling is not debate.


60 posted on 09/05/2012 3:26:10 PM PDT by brightright
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