Posted on 09/04/2012 2:13:59 PM PDT by Eagle Forgotten
Former congressman Virgil Goode Jr. has qualified for the presidential ballot in Virginia, the State Board of Elections ruled Tuesday, adding a potential obstacle to Republican Mitt Romney’s hopes of winning the pivotal state.
The state Republican party has already challenged the eligibility of Goode, who is the Constitution Party’s nominee, and could still get him knocked off the ballot.
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Interesting point. Republicans will stand up to Obama to a certain point but they will be expected to follow Romney. Democrats will hold out for what they want. The Courts and the bureaucracy will side with the Democrats and good, honest Americans lose.
This was the pattern during the Bush presidency.
I still think Romney is better than Obama. But your points are interesting and well thought out.
We need more conservatives in congress and the courts.
By Ronald Reagan in his autobiography An American Life
“When I began entering into the give and take of legislative bargaining in Sacramento, a lot of the most radical conservatives who had supported me during the election didn’t like it. “Compromise” was a dirty word to them and they wouldn’t face the fact that we couldn’t get all of what we wanted today. They wanted all or nothing and they wanted it all at once. If you don’t get it all, some said, don’t take anything. I’d learned while negotiating union contracts that you seldom got everything you asked for. And I agreed with FDR, who said in 1933: ‘I have no expectations of making a hit every time I come to bat. What I seek is the highest possible batting average.’ If you got seventy-five or eighty percent of what you were asking for, I say, you take it and fight for the rest later, and that’s what I told these radical conservatives who never got used to it.
Unfortunately, no. Goode is pretty well known as a fairly conservative guy. Of course he has no chance of winning and will be a tiny, insignificant footnote in history - but he's no leftwinger and won't be winning any Obama voters. I am from VA and always liked him just fine until this 3rd party stunt. On name recognition alone, Goode might take half a percent of the vote from R/R. In a really close election it could be enough to swing VA.
Unfortunately every election cycle you get some of this 3rd party silliness. Here on FR and everywhere else you get some percentage of people determined to waste their votes on write-in's or 3rd party's. Goode is just one of this years ways one can flush their vote down the crapper and otherwise help Obama get re-elected.
You are the sort of "conservative" the Democrat party propaganda machine counts on.
You would rather sit on your ass and shoot your own side in the back then EVER fight the Left on ANYTHING. Your sort of "conservative" is too much of a political coward to ever do the hard work of actually moving the political ball down the field.
You continually rationalize your total inaction by whining that your side isn't political pure enough to suit you.
That just a lie you tell yourself to justify sitting on your ass and doing nothing.
In 2004, the Constitution Party presidential candidate was Michael Peroutka. In 2006, Randy Stufflebeam was a write-in candidate for governor of Illiois. He got about 0.5%, about 23,000 votes, officially. He probably got more votes that weren’t counted because some election judges don’t care about counting write-in votes.
Dem platform backs taxpayers subsidies for abortion through birth
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2926503/posts
You can continue to try to justify your actively working for evil here to God one day. You will no longer be able to claim you did not know what your were doing.
“In 2004, the Constitution Party presidential candidate was Michael Peroutka. In 2006, Randy Stufflebeam was a write-in candidate for governor of Illiois.”
“The lesser of two evils is still evil.”
“it is morally acceptable to vote for the candidate who will do less harm. This is not “choosing the lesser of two evils.” We may never choose evil. ... [Y]ou would not be choosing evil. Why? Because in choosing to limit an evil, you are choosing a good.”
Here’s Father Frank’s entire column:
“I’m often asked what a voter can morally do if two opposing candidates both support abortion. I recommend asking a simple question: Which of the two candidates will do less harm to unborn children if elected?
For example, is either of the candidates willing at least to ban partial-birth abortion? Is either of them willing to put up some roadblocks to free and easy abortion? Will either support parental notification, or parental consent, or waiting periods? Has either of them expressed a desire to ban late-term abortion, or to support pregnancy assistance centers? How about stricter regulation of abortion facilities? Has either candidate expressed support for that idea? Nobody is saying that’s the final goal. But ask these questions just to see whether you can see any benefit of one of the candidates above the other.
One of the two of them will be elected; there is no question about that. So you are not free right now, in this race, to really choose the candidate you want. Forces beyond your control have already limited your choices. Whichever way the election goes, the one elected will not have the position we want elected officials to have on abortion.
In this case, it is morally acceptable to vote for the candidate who will do less harm. This is not “choosing the lesser of two evils.” We may never choose evil. But in the case described above, you would not be choosing evil. Why? Because in choosing to limit an evil, you are choosing a good.
You can have a clear conscience in this instance, because you know that no law can legitimize even a single abortion, ever. If the candidate thinks some abortion is justified, you don’t agree. Moreover, you are doing the most you can to advance the protection of life.
By your vote, you can keep the worse person out. And trying to do that is not only legitimate, but good. Some may think it’s not the best strategy. But it is morally permissible.
Cardinal John O’Connor, in a special booklet on abortion, once wrote about this problem, “Suppose all candidates support ‘abortion rights’? … One could try to determine whether the position of one candidate is less supportive of abortion than that of another. Other things being equal, one might then morally vote for a less supportive position.” (1990, “Abortion: Questions and Answers”).
What if there’s a third candidate who does not have a strong base of support but does have the right position? Of course, we should work like crazy to build up that person’s base of support to make him or her electable. But that is not done on Election Day. That takes years of work, which should start now.
Meanwhile, remember that your vote is not a vote for canonization. It is a transfer of power. We can vote for a less than perfect candidate because we aren’t using our vote to make a statement, but to help bring about the most acceptable results under the circumstances.”
http://priestsforlife.org/columns/columns2006/06-10-23choosingevil.htm
Amen
How is it working for evil to refuse to vote for either evil? The choice is like that between allowing my children to go hungry or knocking off a liquor store to feed them. Neither choice is acceptable; another way must be found. In the case of Romney, my vote is meaningless. As for the link, Mitt backs taxpayer subsidies for abortion as well, though not as late term.
Abortion, Gay Marriage Top DNC Agenda
Romney or Obama will be the next President. Spending all your time trash talking Romney does one thing, help reelect Obama.
You can lie to yourself about your supposed moral superiority but God knows better. You will not be able to claim now you were not warned.
“Is Goode really a conservative or is he a Soros/Obama stooge? If he is such a good conservative why doesn’t he run against a liberal in an election lower on the ticket instead of running a race he can’t possibly win and his only effect will be to help Obama win Virginia and the presidency.”
Please stop asking logical questions. You’ll confuse the dozen or so useful idiots here on FR who believe that a life-long left-winger has suddenly become the reincarnation of Hank Reardon.
I had it drilled into me as I grew up, “It is never right to do wrong to do right.” You are correct in many things, sort of. Romney or Obama, barring an act of God, will be the next President, God help us. God knows my heart. I know I am not morally superior.
However, how is it trash talking to speak the truth? Do you seriously believe that my telling the truth about Romney on here, of all places, will elect Obama? For the first election in my adult life, I am changing the subject when people ask me how to vote. Perhaps I bring my frustrations here because I know I am not going to change minds here.
downloaded the Pavone column. Will come in useful when having discussions with imprudent pro-lifers. Excellent piece.
Even Goldwater comes thru at times.
LOL! I'm stealing this. The FR "Wolverine" faction of keyboard commandos need a taste of reality once in a while.
I often agree with you on issues but I will NEVER agree with you by voting for Myth. Nonetheless, God bless you and yours.
Gee, how fascinating! Does this mean that Myth, for the very first time in his execrable career will have to etch sketches to campaign for actual Republican votes? Conservatives' votes? Gun owners' votes? Pro-lifer votes? Votes of folks fed up to the eye teeth with the all "gay" all the time crapola that has been a hallmark of Myth's career? Votes of folks that marriage is always and ever an institution limited to one man and one woman per marriage? Votes of folks who value their souls more than their investment portfolios? Votes of folks who despise the religious persecution of pro-life churches characterizing his track record and Obozo's? [Readers fill in your favorite issue other than care and feeding of Muffy's trust fund and ask similar questions.]
What can a GOP Elitist windtunnel like Myth do? If he has to behave like a conservative, what was the point of running??? They will make him the butt (he should pardon the expression) of the jokes at the polo club and he will never again be welcomed by the Junior Leaguers or Planned Barrenhood.
How tragic for poor Myth!!! Every carefully cultivated and enthusiastically embraced heresy of his lifetime will have to be discarded for the mere electoral votes of Virginia! Bobby Lee and Stonewall ain't finished yet! And when Myth is forced (what a refreshing situation!) to abandon what pass for HIS principles because actual conservatives WON'T abandon theirs, we shall see what the putz is made of.
Myth already suffered the humiliation of being for each of his supporters here: no better than their 47 gazillionth favorite candidate in the primaries (so they all seem to say as they eagerly pick up those pom poms). NOW he has to publicly Kowtow to the "extremist" majority in the GOP. Is the presidency sooooo attractive to him that he will do such utterly humiliating things??? In a word, yes! Then, if he is elected, watch out! He will teach us a lesson for interfering with his brainless and unprincipled Wierd Cardboard Preppie Zillionaire on the Rampage image and dreams.
Personally, I will vote for FR's own Tom Hoefling of America's Party (I prefer him and his foreign policy over Goode and his) if he is on the ballot. If not, I feel reasonably sure that Goode will be. Either is infinitely superior to the GOP-E and Myth.
If Obozo is defeated by Myth, I will celebrate Obozo's destruction but NOT Myth's victory over America. If Myth is defeated by Obozo, I will celebrate Myth's destruction but NOT Obozo's victory over America. Then, that very night, I will seek the brotherhood of those determined to destroy the "winner." The loser won't be seen again.
For frosting on the cake, let's elect Senate candidates Todd Akin of MO, Deb Fischer of NE, Ted Cruz of TX, Josh Mandel of Ohio, Richard Mourdock of IN, Jeff Flake of AZ, Connie Mack IV of FL, and even Linda McMahon of WWE and CT and Tommy Thompson (ONLY to prevent an openly lesbian US Senator) and any committed anti-GOP-E conservative candidate I may be omitting. Thompson is a well-known but occasionally conservative political whore, McMahon may be a bit questionable (but far preferable to Chris Murphy) and Connie Mack IV is now married to the lovely but controversial pro-abort Mary Bono Mack (but he IS running against incumbent disgrace William Nelson). Those three Senate races have used up my entire supply of "reasonable" compromise this year. Myth and the GOP-E can go straight to hell!
Conservatives lost this POTUS "election" once and for all months ago when Myth's advertising carpet-bombing campaign of lies, slanders, libels, and calumnies against every worthwhile candidate, financed by his corrupt Wall Street buddies at Lord knows what cost to taxpayers as they intend to slop at the gummint trough, simply bought the nomination. Then he and his buddies and Boehner change the party rules to prevent any future insurgencies not merely by Ron Paul's devotees but also by pro-lifers, and each and every other grass roots activist movement within conservatism.
While I have no use for Ron Paul and his specific qualities and foreign policy nuttiness, maybe it is time for the Right (including the Paulistas) to band together, get rid of Romney and take back the GOP. After we band together against the GOP-E, we can argue about Fed audits and gold standards and non-interventionism and pro-life and pro-marriage and what not but we will NOT BE STIFLED by a bunch of Wall Street give-a-shits obsessed with seizing governmental power and fostering Muffy's trust fund.
And NO, I don't care that the other GOP POTUS candidates and the nearly divine Miss Sarah say I should vote for. That is a ritual of everyone playing at their level as a condition of further prominence at that level and ought not be taken seriously. The sound you hear is the rising of a national version of the Army of Northern Virginia! If we go down, we shall go down with honor intact and refusing to cower before our enemies in BOTH parties.
Congratulations to the Honorable Virgil Goode from a supporter of Tom Hoefling! A job well done, sir! Make the ballot in Pennsylvania, Florida, Ohio, Michigan, and Wisconsin and Myth will be forced to be an entirely new man.
Tom Hoefling:
May God grant that you make it onto the ballot wherever you can and particularly in your state and mine. Make Myth bleed, Tom! Show America its history, its heritage and its future. If you feel moved to "debate" Myth, a life sized cardboard cutout mounted on plywood would do even better than Eastwood's empty chair for Obozo. Sounds like a good video for YouTube! In about eight weeks the Myth pm pom girls pep rally will end and we can get back to conservatism.
God bless you and yours!
Your line about a number of our hard core type dying in an Obamacare hospital rather than with a gun in their hand was pure gold. Loved it.
We’ve got one chance to get this right. November 2012. Obama has to go.
How sad for Fr. Pavone's reputation! And for the babies to be slaughtered later because there will be no major party devoted to saving them, Just GOP-E vs. Demonrats. Sounds to me like a very good excuse to develop a party now to replace the morally arteriosclerotic GOP greedheads of the GOP-E.
Oh, and the lesser of two evils is STILL EVIL no matter what anyone says. There is absolutely NO EVIDENCE whatsoever that Mittler ever has or ever will limit abortions in the slightest. He has been a shameless lifelong cheerleader for abortion no matter how many sketches he etches to gull the suckers who sooooooo badly want to believe that he has changed. He hasn't and he won't any more than Obozo will.
Pete:
I KNOW that you KNOW better than this and ARE better than this.
Finally, BOTH Obozo and Mittler have life long track records of doing whatever they can to tax you and me to pay for the general run of abortions (and sex change operations, and sterilizations and chemical abortions and every other abomination known to man or beast). That ain't your fault, right??? Does supporting Myth on his latest etch a sketch fairy tale about being a smidgeon better than Obozo "make YOU feel pure and all good about YOURSELF???" There is NO rational reason why it should. YOU can explain your indifference to the 5 million or more who will be slaughtered under Myth OR Obozo and paid for by Romneycare gone national or Obozocare (in either event with the TAX money of each of us, according to no less an authority than SCOTUS CJ John Roberts). Reality is a female dog in the GOP-E lane, ain't it?
Oh, I know. You must be voting for Ryan and not Mittler (in your mind) because Mittler is going (in your mind) to give Ryan a free hand in stemming the Abortion Holocaust and babykilling festival. Puhleeze!!!
elk, there are more Catholics out here who spend their time smearing Scott Brown, Linda McMahon and other such candidates out this way and never a false word about Blementhal or Martha Coakley or Lizzy Warren. Confused people.
And then they claim it is their religion that informs them to participate in such stoogery.
http://www.catholicism.org/scott-brown-conserving-evil.html
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