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I think military vets need to read this executive order. Look at:

Sec. 5. Improved Research and Development. Read (c) under that Sec. 5 where "...Agencies shall continue ongoing collaborative research efforts, with an aim to enroll at least 100,000 service members by December 31, 2012, and include a plan for long term follow up with enrollees through a coordinated effort with the Department of Veterans Affairs."

Is it time for our vets to relocate or stay to be part of a comprehensive longitudinal mental health study?

100,000 by December 31, 2012

1 posted on 09/03/2012 7:01:51 PM PDT by Bronzy
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To: Bronzy

Another government employee jobs program. Shouldn’t the shrinks check the politicians first so we’ll know how many of them are crazy.


2 posted on 09/03/2012 7:05:23 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Had enough of the freaks running the show yet?)
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It sounds like a way to isolate vets to me by labellibg them as all troubled.


3 posted on 09/03/2012 7:06:43 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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I'm sure that this is in no way a backdoor attempt by Zer0 to strip veterans of their Second Amendment rights. </sarc>
5 posted on 09/03/2012 7:09:39 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows (You can't have IngSoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To date it has been a total disaster. Please read about my friend Josh with PTSD: http://saveoursoldiers.org/


8 posted on 09/03/2012 7:12:52 PM PDT by tired&retired
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I refuse to go to the site. Would you be so kind as to copy the whole thing here?


11 posted on 09/03/2012 7:15:02 PM PDT by Brad’s Gramma (PRAY for this country like your life depends on it......because it DOES!)
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why are they trying to register all vets as nuts as much as possible?


12 posted on 09/03/2012 7:15:16 PM PDT by RaceBannon (I wont vote for a gay marriage marxist gun grabber, or vote for Obama, either)
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Bump


17 posted on 09/03/2012 7:23:28 PM PDT by Amntn
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To: Bronzy

oh this is not good at all


18 posted on 09/03/2012 7:26:03 PM PDT by Nifster
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I would suggest that vets stay away from this program at all costs. Once you get on their list as “troubled” you will never be able to get off it and you will be subject to future warrant-less actions by government agencies. Find some other method to get help if possible including private insurance, free counseling, churches, etc. This is my opinion based upon experience of others and the way government is functioning today.


24 posted on 09/03/2012 7:44:04 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (Skittle pooping unicorns are more common than progressives with honor & integrity.)
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To: Bronzy
Without going into details, VA has some good medical facilities (vast improvement over a decade or so ago) but the system is primed for nut cases.

Their medical scope has advanced to an amazing degree and today's troops deserve no less.

But mention Vietnam and you'd better be crazy as a loon, homeless, and willing to drool on command...or one those who sat comfy in El Segundo for three years and are now just as comfy gaming the system and thus enjoying the mother of all safety nets.

Those with trouble breathing, sleeping, coping, or simply applying for help need not apply.

31 posted on 09/03/2012 8:08:12 PM PDT by norton
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A red flag immediately went up for me when b.o. made an announcement in early 2009 that he was going to make sure vets got treated for extremely high occurences of PTSD. I had previously heard or read nothing about this notion.

Our military is the biggest threat to his total takeover of this nation. Why would anyone believe he wants to do what's best for them?

Keep remembering Brandon Raub.

34 posted on 09/03/2012 8:20:35 PM PDT by taraytarah
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Ah, don’t get me started!

Shrink here, board certified yada yada yada - In private practice for the past three years after 22 years treating some of the sickest of the sick in all kinds of settings. Pretty darned good at what I do (meds, psychotherapy, TMS).

Just to round out the picture with a little backstory - Hospital Corpsman, shipboard, Gator Fleet, independent duty station, during the latter days of our country’s Viet Nam Adventure: saw some small action off the coasts of Cambodia and South Viet Nam when those countries fell to the Communists under our watch [or shortly after we relinquished our watch to cover our a$$es].

Back to the present: Lots of Navy and other military folks around here where I practice now, and a boatload of Vets who could use my services. The Navy hospital and Triwest/Tricare sends me dependents, which its fine unless I have to deal with their lab - who won’t send me results because I’m not a “Navy doctor” - or their primitive, 1980s-formulary pharmacy - or their pathetically poorly-trained doctors who bad-mouth me to my patients for using proven treatments that get them well. And not one of any of them - lab or pharmacy or doctors - will return my calls or send me lab results or act like I even exist. And the few times I’ve treated active duty personnel - who must get a waiver to come see me after some dissatisfaction or conflict of interest with the military healthcare system - well, let’s just say that what I hear does not inspire confidence.

Shift now to the VA, and magnify all the problems many orders of magnitude.

In my medical school training and psychiatric residency, I did rotations at both inpatient and outpatient VA facilities, and it was always the pits - the worst of the worst healthcare - wherever I was. And it was not the funding, as far as I could tell: it was the attitude. The Federal bureaucracy, in all its glory, involved in healthcare. What a travesty.

When I started my current private practice, I looked into seeing VA patients. Clinically, it was joke, and a grand exercise in headaches and frustration, and financially it was a money-looser. I said no.

And now? No matter what Executive Order Obama signs [extra-Constitutionally], until they give the Vets a voucher to go see the civilian doctor of their choice, and pay for whatever 21st century med that doctor prescribes, they can count me out, and probably count out any doctor worth their salt.


35 posted on 09/03/2012 8:21:50 PM PDT by dagogo redux (A whiff of primitive spirits in the air, harbingers of an impending descent into the feral.)
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This has a P-U factor that has already reached the moon.

Re-education anyone ..???????????


50 posted on 09/03/2012 8:50:12 PM PDT by CyberAnt ("America is the greatest nation on the face of the earth".)
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...with an aim to enroll at least 100,000 service members by December 31, 2012...

Since they're going all out to find these 100,000 service members so quickly, maybe they can slip an absentee ballot into the enrollment forms, so they can get to the service members in time to vote?

-PJ

81 posted on 09/03/2012 9:39:19 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too ( It doesn't come naturally when you're not natural born.)
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I just started to need to use the VA again, some old things need a bit of surgery. I'll keep you all posted if they are wanting me to sign up for anything like this..so far its just been, ok make an appointment so we can assign you a new provider.
91 posted on 09/03/2012 10:18:30 PM PDT by montanajoe (Blame Flame Shame or Beg I won't vote for R/R)
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