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So the fewer tests and treatments doctor's perform, the better off they are and of course the worse off the patient is.

This IS rationing!

You better get out and vote for Romney to keep Obama from getting a second term.

Think -- the life you save may be your own!

1 posted on 09/02/2012 4:43:56 PM PDT by Innovative
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2 posted on 09/02/2012 4:49:25 PM PDT by Nachum (The List was hacked- www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Innovative

They just passed this in Massachusetts

you have to alert the MA government if you change any price or service.

PRICE CONTROL AND RATIONING


3 posted on 09/02/2012 4:49:25 PM PDT by preamble
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To: Innovative
  1. Kick government out of the health care business
  2. Outlaw anything other than catastrophic health insurance.
The whole thing would take care of itself.
4 posted on 09/02/2012 4:55:21 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the sociopath.)
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“I’m sorry, your treatment is too expensive and you’ll have to do without it”

...

How long before they cut out dialysis?


9 posted on 09/02/2012 5:21:10 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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Insurance schemes pulled into the claws of government are going to suffer like this.


12 posted on 09/02/2012 5:32:22 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (let me ABOs run loose, lew (or is that lou?))
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Could we cut expenses by having fewer tests? Of course, but let’s put a muzzle on malpractice lawyers first.


14 posted on 09/02/2012 6:21:26 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (CREDO QUIA ABSURDUM)
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The Feds want the states to be the rationing proxies. The states will make hospitals their rationing proxies. Providers will work for hospitals
as rationing proxies.
The goal will be to provide as little care as possible. Doctor and provider shortages will ensure limited access which will help reduce costs. Of course, some doctors will retire and others will transition to all cash practices further reducing supply and access.


16 posted on 09/02/2012 7:04:13 PM PDT by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est; zero sera dans l'enfer bientot)
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do I really have to say it???

17 posted on 09/02/2012 7:06:41 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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Hitler Rants about Obamacare and Right Wingers

http://www.youtube.com/all_comments?v=MRvtWEG_vhQ


18 posted on 09/02/2012 7:09:48 PM PDT by doug from upland (I don't like RINOs, but I love my country more than I hate Romney...Muslim marxist, get out!)
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healthcare budgeting ... meaning you wont get everything you need/want and your care is decided on by others

in other words....

death panels.

who could’ve seen this coming??


21 posted on 09/02/2012 7:47:10 PM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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Sarah Palin was right, ‘death panels’ are a coming!


23 posted on 09/02/2012 8:38:20 PM PDT by rawhide
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To: Innovative

Bump


26 posted on 09/03/2012 3:37:36 AM PDT by lowbridge (Joe Biden: "Look, the Taliban per se is not our enemy.")
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To: Innovative

Budget? He can’t even get the fiscal budget passed.


27 posted on 09/03/2012 8:15:39 AM PDT by Diggity
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Lest us not forget, our current system has either the government or the insurance companies making decisions about our healthcare and tacking on huge costs.

I don’t want either insurance or government. I favor migrating to a system that removes the need for a middleman. Middlemen only increase costs and distort need while generating billions in unnecessary treatments. Our medical system is costing too much and not getting the results.

The end result should be if someone needs treatment and doesn’t have the money then borrow it, or have your kids pay or take out a mortgage. Soon we’d find the $50K hospital costs reduced to $10K or less. Let the market decide and we’d soon see huge reduced costs in healthcare and it would not come from rationing. In the 60s a patient could actually borrow and pay the costs of hospitalization with a modest loan.

No longer would drug companies waste billions on advertising for drugs people can’t afford. But that would upset those who profit in the media. You would not have millionaire lobbyists like Billy Tauzin trying to scam taxpayers for his industry.

The system has become so distorted by excess money and the fraud of insurance that those without it can’t afford to pay. This ends up distorting the free market for providers and customers and encourages employers to move their jobs offshore. We’ve lost good jobs because of the costs and market distortion.


28 posted on 09/03/2012 8:23:00 AM PDT by apoliticalone (Honest govt. that operates in the interest of US sovereignty and the people, not global $$$)
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A top-down budget for health care? What could go wrong?

Why not go ahead and develop a Health Care 5 Year Plan?


35 posted on 09/03/2012 5:08:01 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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