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1 posted on 08/28/2012 12:42:36 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
A poll claims that Romney will receive zero percent of the black vote.

I think that poll is PURE GARBAGE and is CONTRIVED to support the phony "Republicans are all racists" narrative.

About a month or so ago there was a group of something like 1000 black pastors that said they were telling their congregations that they should not vote for Obama due to his position on queer marriage. Common sense says more of those members will not vote for Obama this time vs 2008.

2 posted on 08/28/2012 1:04:31 AM PDT by MrDem (Founder: Democrats for Cheney/Palin 2012)
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Well, if the poll proves correct, it means that a vast majority of black voters are ignorant of the truth...or else they're racist.

Why can't it be both. Several prominent examples come to mind led by Spike Lee and Chris Rock. Their fan base has the highest unemployment, recieves the most abortions, and will suffer second only to seniors under Obozo care.

6 posted on 08/28/2012 2:09:54 AM PDT by verga (Forced to remove tag line by administrator)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

“BLACK Christians who vote for OBAMA knowing his crimes against Christianity and biblical principles have chosen to worship the idol of RACIAL loyalty over their discipleship to Jesus Christ. Pure and simple.

“Thou shalt have no other gods before me.”-Exodus20:3”

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Remove the first word and Obama and third, take out the word
racial. Type in Romney.

~ ~ ~

“Christians who vote for Romney knowing his crimes against Christianity and biblical principles have chosen to worship the idol of loyalty over their discipleship to Jesus Christ. Pure and simple.

“Thou shalt have no other gods before me.”-Exodus 20:3”


7 posted on 08/28/2012 2:38:26 AM PDT by stpio
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

“That evening, Dad said, “Everything I heard today is true. But, because of racism I suffered in my youth, I can not turn against Obama.”

I had a black kid pull a piece of broken glass on me in Jr. High school. A black janitor spit on my head as I walked by him at an industry show I attended as an engineer after college. There was no verbal altercation in either case. I was guilty of being a “cracker”.

Eric Holder has now endorsed racism against whites supported by the most powerful government on earth.

I am blessed that my savior to protect me from this is the greatest warrior ever - Jesus Christ. Those who kneel before Him can stand up to any devil. Rebellion against tyrants is obedience to God.

I make no moral distinction between racists who abuse people with their power, and the phoney, deluded “Christians” who enable them with their votes.


14 posted on 08/28/2012 3:25:49 AM PDT by MikeSteelBe (Austrian Hitler was, as the Halfrican Hitler does.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife; Lloyd Marcus
How do you respectfully tell your usually character-driven parent that his decision to support Obama, no matter what, is rooted in racism and a refusal to forgive?

Perhaps point out words in the "Our Father" .."forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us." Perhaps point out our Lord's last words... "Father forgive them, for they know not what they do."

17 posted on 08/28/2012 3:49:58 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
How do you respectfully tell your usually character-driven parent that his decision to support Obama, no matter what, is rooted in racism and a refusal to forgive?

It is not only rooted in racism but on a false narrative. It was the democrats who stood in the school house doors to block black integration not Republicans. It was the democrat party that blocked all civil rights legislation. Democrats enacted the Jim Crow laws and on and on. If the truth be known not one black would vote for a democrat.

19 posted on 08/28/2012 3:53:51 AM PDT by mc5cents
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
A poll claims that Romney will receive zero percent of the black vote.

Just how STUPID is THAT poll?

Haven't they ever heard of BLACK Mormons?

Haven't they ever heard of Gladys Knight?

Sure; they might be torn between voting their race or voting their religion; but HEY!

Welcome to the problem of Evangelical Christians who are facing the choice of a deceived (or deceiving) MORMON and a Marxist/Muslim!

24 posted on 08/28/2012 4:31:16 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
A poll claims that Romney will receive zero percent of the black vote.

Now just WHY would that be?

Don't blacks KNOW that all of the following was way back in Mitt's distant past??





"You see some classes of the human family that are black, uncouth, uncomely, disagreeable and low in their habits, wild, and seemingly deprived of nearly all the blessings of the intelligence that is generally bestowed upon mankind.

The first man that committed the odious crime of killing one of his brethren will be cursed the longest of any one of the children of Adam. Cain slew his brother. Cain might have been killed, and that would have put a termination to that line of human beings.

This was not to be, and the Lord put a mark upon him, which is the flat nose and black skin. Trace mankind down to after the flood, and then another curse is pronounced upon the same race--that they should be the 'servant of servants', and they will be, until that curse is removed."

Brigham Young-President and second 'Prophet' of the Mormon Church, 1844-1877- Extract from Journal of Discourses.



Here are two examples from their 'other testament', the Book of Mormon.

2 Nephi 5: 21 'And he had caused the cursing to come upon them, yea, even a sore cursing, because of their iniquity. For behold, they had hardened their hearts against him, that they had become like unto a flint; wherefore, as they were white, and exceedingly fair and delightsome, that they might not be enticing unto my people, the Lord God did cause a skin of blackness to come upon them.'

Alma 3: 6 'And the skins of the Lamanites were dark, according to the mark which was set upon their fathers, which was a curse upon them because of their transgression and their rebellion against their brethren, who consisted of Nephi, Jacob and Joseph, and Sam, who were just and holy men.'



August 27, 1954 in an address at Brigham Young University (BYU), Mormon Elder, Mark E Peterson, in speaking to a convention of teachers of religion at the college level, said:

"The discussion on civil rights, especially over the last 20 years, has drawn some very sharp lines. It has blinded the thinking of some of our own people, I believe. They have allowed their political affiliations to color their thinking to some extent.I think I have read enough to give you an idea of what the Negro is after."

"He is not just seeking the opportunity of sitting down in a cafe where white people eat. He isn't just trying to ride on the same streetcar or the same Pullman car with white people. It isn't that he just desires to go to the same theater as the white people. From this, and other interviews I have read, it appears that the Negro seeks absorption with the white race. He will not be satisfied until he achieves it by intermarriage."

"That is his objective and we must face it. We must not allow our feelings to carry us away, nor must we feel so sorry for Negroes that we will open our arms and embrace them with everything we have. Remember the little statement that we used to say about sin, 'First we pity, then endure, then embrace'...."

(Rosa Parks would have probably told Petersen under which wheel of the bus he should go sit.)



1967, (then) Mormon President Ezra Taft Benson said,

"The Communist program for revolution in America has been in progress for many years and is far advanced. First of all, we must not place the blame upon Negroes. They are merely the unfortunate group that has been selected by professional Communist agitators to be used as the primary source of cannon fodder."



We are told that on June 8, 1978, it was 'revealed' to the then president, Spencer Kimball, that people of color could now gain entry into the priesthood.

According to the church, Kimball spent many long hours petitioning God, begging him to give worthy black people the priesthood. God finally relented.



Sometime before the 'revelation' came to chief 'Prophet' Spencer Kimball in June 1978, General Authority, Bruce R McConkie had said:

"The Blacks are denied the Priesthood; under no circumstances can they hold this delegation of authority from the Almighty.

The Negroes are not equal with other races where the receipt of certain blessings are concerned, particularly the priesthood and the temple blessings that flow there from, but this inequality is not of man's origin, it is the Lord's doings."

(Mormon Doctrine, pp. 526-527).



When Mormon 'Apostle' Mark E Petersen spoke on 'Race Problems- As they affect the Church' at the BYU campus in 1954, the following was also said:

"...if the negro accepts the gospel with real, sincere faith, and is really converted, to give him the blessings of baptism and the gift of the Holy Ghost, he can and will enter the celestial kingdom. He will go there as a servant, but he will get celestial glory."



When Mormon 'Prophet' and second President of the Church, Brigham Young, spoke in 1863 the following was also said:

"Shall I tell you the law of God in regard to the African race? If the white man who belongs to the chosen seed mixes his blood with the seed of Cain, the penalty, under the law of God is death on the spot. This will always be so."

(Journal of Discourses, Vo. 10, p. 110)





Yeah; Native Americans are althroughout the Book of MORMON; too.

 

“I saw a striking contrast in the progress of the Indian people today ... they are fast becoming a white and delightsome people.... For years they have been growing delightsome, and they are now becoming white and delightsome, as they were promised.... The children in the home placement program in Utah are often lighter than their brothers and sisters in the hogans on the reservation.

At one meeting a father and mother and their sixteen-year-old daughter were present, the little member girl-sixteen-sitting between the dark father and mother, and it was evident she was several shades lighter than her parents—on the same reservation, in the same hogan, subject to the same sun and wind and weather.... These young members of the Church are changing to whiteness and to delightsomeness.

One white elder jokingly said that he and his companion were donating blood regularly to the hospital in the hope that the process might be accelerated.

 

(Improvement Era, December 1960, pp.922-23). (p. 209)

 



 

26 posted on 08/28/2012 4:33:07 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
A poll claims that Romney will receive zero percent of the black vote.

Don't be blamin' Romney for what his GOD had done!

After all; Mitt fervently believed all the above until he was 32 years old; then he promptly switched when the Living Prophet© (and the Quorum of 12) made their proclamation in 1978.

29 posted on 08/28/2012 4:36:04 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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... the Living Prophet© (and the Quorum of 12) made their proclamation in 1978.




Official Declaration—2

 

To Whom It May Concern:

On 30 September 1978, at the 148th Semiannual General Conference of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, the following was presented by President N. Eldon Tanner, First Counselor in the First Presidency of the Church:

In early June of this year, the First Presidency announced that a revelation had been received by President Spencer W. Kimball extending priesthood and temple blessings to all worthy male members of the Church. President Kimball has asked that I advise the conference that after he had received this revelation, which came to him after extended meditation and prayer in the sacred rooms of the holy temple, he presented it to his counselors, who accepted it and approved it. It was then presented to the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles, who unanimously approved it, and was subsequently presented to all other General Authorities, who likewise approved it unanimously.

President Kimball has asked that I now read this letter:

June 8, 1978
To all general and local priesthood officers of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints throughout the world:
Dear Brethren:

As we have witnessed the expansion of the work of the Lord over the earth, we have been grateful that people of many nations have responded to the message of the restored gospel, and have joined the Church in ever-increasing numbers. This, in turn, has inspired us with a desire to extend to every worthy member of the Church all of the privileges and blessings which the gospel affords.

Aware of the promises made by the prophets and presidents of the Church who have preceded us that at some time, in God’s eternal plan, all of our brethren who are worthy may receive the priesthood, and witnessing the faithfulness of those from whom the priesthood has been withheld, we have pleaded long and earnestly in behalf of these, our faithful brethren, spending many hours in the Upper Room of the Temple supplicating the Lord for divine guidance.

He has heard our prayers, and by revelation has confirmed that the long-promised day has come when every faithful, worthy man in the Church may receive the holy priesthood, with power to exercise its divine authority, and enjoy with his loved ones every blessing that flows therefrom, including the blessings of the temple. Accordingly, all worthy male members of the Church may be ordained to the priesthood without regard for race or color. Priesthood leaders are instructed to follow the policy of carefully interviewing all candidates for ordination to either the Aaronic or the Melchizedek Priesthood to insure that they meet the established standards for worthiness.

We declare with soberness that the Lord has now made known his will for the blessing of all his children throughout the earth who will hearken to the voice of his authorized servants, and prepare themselves to receive every blessing of the gospel.

Sincerely yours,
Spencer W. Kimball
N. Eldon Tanner
Marion G. Romney
The First Presidency

Recognizing Spencer W. Kimball as the prophet, seer, and revelator, and president of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, it is proposed that we as a constituent assembly accept this revelation as the word and will of the Lord. All in favor please signify by raising your right hand. Any opposed by the same sign.

The vote to sustain the foregoing motion was unanimous in the affirmative.

Salt Lake City, Utah, September 30, 1978.

30 posted on 08/28/2012 4:38:08 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
... extending priesthood and temple blessings to all worthy male members of the Church.

Hang in there, ladies; as the MORMON god just may change it's mind again soon...

31 posted on 08/28/2012 4:39:16 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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“Black Christians are faced with a crucial choice: Jesus or Obama. I pray that come November, a majority of Black Christians will not yell, ‘Give us skin color!’”

OK, my guess is only 94% of Blacks will vote for Dear Leader because of his race instead of 100%.

32 posted on 08/28/2012 4:40:31 AM PDT by MasterGunner01
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Incredibly, some blacks have completely forsaken their Christianity for Obama.

Sadly; some Catholics have completely forsaken their Christianity for Obama; as well as a lot of other folks who had very little knowledge of what they 'believed'.

33 posted on 08/28/2012 4:40:55 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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Black chrstians sold out a long time ago. They look upon a higher critical liberal who rejected all the chrstian dogmas (MLK Jr.) as their "messiah."

The Byzantines once declared they would rather see the Turkish turban than the Latin miter in Constantinople. Centuries later chrstians are still divided along ethnic lines, preferring their enemies to each other.

59 posted on 08/28/2012 8:03:36 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Ki-hagoy vehamamlakhah 'asher lo'-ya`avdukh yove'du; vehagoyim charov yecheravu!)
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