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To: bert

It should also be pointed out that natural gas is only this cheap because demand for it is relatively low. Throw the vehicle population of the US in there and watch prices skyrocket. Remember, the natural gas vehicles would then be competing with powerplants for the natural gas that’s out there. Then you can have expensive vehicle fuel and ridiculous electric bills at the same time.


9 posted on 08/27/2012 4:39:56 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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With capturing all of it instead of burning it off will also raise production and lower the cost. So why is it that your glass is twice the size it has to be? Dealing with a problem that is either a glass half full or half empty is not the way one should be looking at efficiency when it comes to dealing with engineering problems.


13 posted on 08/27/2012 4:44:34 AM PDT by mazda77 ("Defeating the Totalitarian Lie" By: Hilmar von Campe. Everybody should read it.)
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Power plants would then revert to coal and nuclear fuel. The reason for coal and nuclear not being used is political, not economic or scientific


19 posted on 08/27/2012 4:50:52 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Present failure and impending death yield irrational action))
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To: Spktyr
natural gas is only this cheap because demand for it is relatively low. Throw the vehicle population of the US in there and watch prices skyrocket.
when oil and natural-gas prices tracked one another, if natural gas’s price (in mmcf) was at $8, oil would have been at about $48 — a ratio of 6 (barrels of oil) to 1 (mmcf of gas). But because of horizontal drilling, fracking, and OPEC’s thirst for U.S. dollars, natural gas at one point this year was under $2 per mmcf, while oil was well over $100 per barrel — a ratio of more than 50 to 1.
IOW, a BTU from natural gas has recently been less than one eighth the price of a BTU of oil. That leaves room for a tremendous runup in natural gas price before you even get to the point where oil is only twice as expensive as NG. By the time NG prices run up that much, it will be even more lucrative to exploit more of the huge known, accessible reserves of NG with more horizontal drilling and fracking.
Remember, the natural gas vehicles would then be competing with powerplants for the natural gas that’s out there. Then you can have expensive vehicle fuel and ridiculous electric bills at the same time.
There is enough NG out there, easily accessible, to fuel transportation and power plants - and fuel steel mills instead of coal, to boot. You are thinking small.

86 posted on 08/27/2012 4:05:11 PM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (The idea around which “liberalism" coheres is that NOTHING actually matters except PR.)
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You sound for all the world like someone who has a big stake in the oal bidness.
87 posted on 08/27/2012 5:22:43 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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