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To: Ron H.

Doctors can “diagnose” almost anyone with clinical depression.

Are you sad because your dog died? You’re clinically depressed. Are you sad because you lost your job? You’re clinically depressed. Are you sad because you’re arguing with a family member? You’re clinically depressed. Are you irritated with the neighbor because his dog poops on your lawn? You’re clinically depressed.

I’m pretty sure our vets (”depressed” or not) are smart enough to keep and bear arms regardless of what some shrink says. I don’t think they are going to get walked over by some liberal government shrink who is afraid of guns.


30 posted on 08/26/2012 6:52:52 PM PDT by generally (Don't be stupid. We have politicians for that.)
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To: generally

Interesting theory you have there. Take it from someone who has walked down that long harrowing road and has lived with the tragic consequences every day for better than 42 years now. (Clinical) depression is only one factor of PTSD symptoms. Some of us (former combat veterans) have learned to recognize the symptoms and learned ways to cope with the effects.


32 posted on 08/26/2012 7:09:37 PM PDT by Ron H. (Ahh, how's that multi-culturism thing working out for you these days?!)
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To: generally

See my post #36


37 posted on 08/27/2012 6:55:32 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: generally

As Attitudes Shift on P.T.S.D, Media Slow to Remove Stigma

By Mike Haynie

Jul 3, 2012

In recent years, the Department of Defense has made unprecedented progress toward eliminating the stigma associated with post-traumatic stress disorder and other mental health issues affecting service members. This cultural shift within the military is a sea change, as more and more of our service members are seeking and receiving the support they need and deserve from a grateful nation. In the face of that progress, it’s unfortunate that some in the media continue to perpetuate a stigma linking military service to mental illness and violence.

This is seen in news articles throughout the country, with some referring to veterans as “ticking time bombs.” By describing vets as “time bombs” who are highly trained in “guerrilla warfare,” media outlets prove far too careless with regard to providing societal context for isolated acts of violence committed by people who sometimes happen to be veterans.

Reporting has been biased toward paper-selling sensationalism that perpetuates the stigma of a dangerous combat veteran akin to Rambo, invading our neighborhoods and homes. Consider the media coverage of the case of Itzcoatl Ocampo, who has been charged with the murders of several homeless men in California. Some news outlets went as far as to identify him as a former Marine before even mentioning his name. Others were sure to immediately identify him as an Iraq war veteran, and then described how the victims were tracked in a meticulous manner, blatantly attempting to portray Mr. Ocampo as if he believed he was still on mission. Mr. Ocampo has even been called an “Iraq war veteran” and a “monster” in the same paragraph, connecting the two.

If the charges against Mr. Ocampo are proved true, it’s very likely he is a monster and a terrible threat – no different from a serial killer who is not a veteran. However, the unfortunate reality is that the message that far too many Americans take away from stories crafted in this way is a stigma that paints all veterans with the same brush, and the color of the paint is disturbing and dangerous.

Most unfortunate, and misleading, are the links these reporters imply between military service, mental health and an increased propensity for extreme violence. In 2008, The New York Times published a series of articles focused on “veterans of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan who have committed killings, or been charged with them, after coming home.” The Times found “121 cases in which veterans of Iraq and Afghanistan committed a killing, or were charged with one, after their return from war.” At the time those articles were published, the population of post-9/11 veterans was about 750,000, an offender rate of 16 homicides per 100,000 veterans.

Data from the Department of Justice indicates that the homicide offender rate in the civilian population during that same period varied between 25 and 28 homicides per 100,000 young American males – implying that veterans might actually be less likely than their non-veteran, age-group peers to commit a violent homicide.

Also not supported by facts is the link often implied by the media between combat stress and crime in general. A recent study published in the British Medical Journal indicates that veterans with combat trauma are no more likely than other people to end up in prison. Further, data from state and federal prisons highlights that the number of incarcerated veterans has at worst remained unchanged, and in many states declined, throughout the past decade of war.

For better or worse, the media will play a large and important role in shaping the cultural narrative that defines this generation of veterans. Unfortunately, that narrative has been a story of extremes to date. At one extreme, it’s the story of the veteran as the superhero – unstoppable and iconic. At the other extreme, it’s a narrative that frames the veteran as “broken,” whose life course will be defined by post-traumatic stress, domestic violence, suicide, unemployment and homelessness. The result is a caricature of the American veteran as someone who exclusively represents one of these extremes.

Read at:

http://vets.syr.edu/blog/as-attitudes-shift-on-p.t.s.d,-media-slow-to-remove-stigma.html


52 posted on 08/28/2012 12:00:45 PM PDT by KeyLargo
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