Missouri conservatives rally to Akin, blast Republican “establishment”

Reuters ^ | August 24, 2012 | Nick Carey

[Jonah Vark]

(Reuters) – Missouri conservatives say they are rallying around U.S. Senate candidate Todd Akin despite his controversial comments about rape because they are outraged that “establishment” Republican Party leaders tried to railroad him out of the race.

A backlash has set in here in Akin’s suburban St. Louis congressional district, where supporters said the national party had no right to attempt to force out a duly-elected candidate.

[philman_36]

The Socialists who have taken over our government picked McCaskill to be the point man for Obamacare, and there is nothing they will not do to keep her in office.
The Akin case is a situation of where OPPORTUNITY met INTENT, and the distraction from Fast/Furious was of paramount importance.

What? What? Did you just say something of great importance?
I'll just ignore what you said and that'll solve everything. /sarcasm

[SeaHawkFan]

Ten weeks is an eternity in politics. In another couple of weeks, anyone who ever considered voting for him will realize that it was simply a stupid comment, look at the implications of voting for McCaskill, then vote for Akin. It’s not even a close decision.

[UCANSEE2]

The DWS pic is funny - thanks for the laugh.

Thank you for having a good sense of humor.

You still don’t get it, though.

OH, I get it. It's dirty politics.

His candidacy is in trouble because he couldn’t answer a pretty easy question without going off the rails.

AND what would your answer have been ?

You seem to have a principled view on abortion.

Well... Thanks. But I'm not a woman, so according to the MEDIA, and SOCIETY, and our GOVERNMENT, my opinion doesn't count.

I’d think it would bother you that his principles seem to be based upon the frequency of those pregnancies, rather than moral value of the lives in question.

I reread his reply, and how you can infer his 'principles' based on this one comment:

"First of all, from what I understand from doctors, that's really rare,"

Why should it matter how common it is?

You say COMMON, he said RARE. It can't be both. Or.... maybe I am reading something into your comment that isn't there (just like others are doing to him).

Allow me to ask you this. If 10,000 women who became pregnant (from consensual sex) figured out that they could get a FREE abortion by claiming RAPE, and YOU HAD TO PAY FOR IT (which you do), would you then be concerned ?

[mcleodglen]

I guess Todd Akin still got a bunch of fans now.

[philman_36]

Debate her assertions, but don't tell people to SHUT UP.

Ummm...you're chastising the wrong person if you're chastising me.

See, my reply #230 was in response to VictoryGal's reply 148 where VictoryGal's "assertion" was to tell Jonah Vark... YOU ARE NOT HELPING. Shut UP.

I didn't tell anyone to shut up. Apology accepted in advance.

[UCANSEE2]

I'll just ignore what you said and that'll solve everything.

You wouldn't be the first.

: )

[butterdezillion]

Do you have any idea how many factors all have to come together for conception to occur?

After we lost our first child we spent some time trying to conceive again. After you read what all is involved and how many things can go wrong, you realize that conception and pregnancy are miracles of life every time they happen.

I don’t know everything; none of us does. But I do know that small changes can have huge impact when all the details are so intricate and interconnected. And doctors instinctively know this even just from anecdotal evidence they see every day. I’ve mentioned elsewhere how many people try for years to conceive and as soon as they give up and make plans to adopt they conceive. Did stress somehow impact their fertility? I’ve read in several different books on conception, pregnancy, and women’s health about how a woman wanting too desperately to either become pregnant or not become pregnant can impact both her sexual response and her fertility. It’s all connected.

I think when we automatically shoot down a scientific claim because it is politically incorrect - and then banish the speaker to outer hell because of it - we stifle the pursuit of truth and dumb down both our society and its dialogue. And that can only hurt us in the long run.

The body can do amazing things. There are stories about military people in combat situations who can do unbelievable things. That’s the power of the fight-or-flight chemicals. When your body is in the red zone - fully engaged against an enemy - only the Lord knows what your body can and can’t do. Can adrenaline alter the bones in the inner ear to prevent hearing damage from a war zone? Well..... how many soldiers come back deaf? I don’t think I’d be too quick to say what is possible and what isn’t.

[philman_36]

The reproductive tract has nothing comparable.
So spontaneous abortion is "magic" and it doesn't really exist after all and doctors don't know what they're talking about?

[UCANSEE2]

Seems if getting pregnant was only a matter of being inseminated, there would be a lot less FERTILITY CLINICS in operation.

Although I know very little about pregnancy or exactly what enables or disables it, most people seem to know less than me.

You are the exception.

[House Atreides]

“.....‘Moby’ asked his many leftie fans to register on Free Republic to disrupt and divert FR threads

KOS, DU, and HuffPost did the same
When you click on a FR thread - Remember - you really do not know how you are posting to - or who is replying - or who is reading mucho propaganda”
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I wasn’t aware that some of these sites have OPENLY done that, but it is not surprising. I’m pretty certain I’ve seen the not-infrequent postings of their efforts’ spawn.

[rodguy911]

But if this is how we’re going to let the dims play the grievances game, we’re going to lose no matter who is the candidate. The loss in the polls is probably different factions trying to leverage for a particular candidate other than Akin. Maybe they’ll succeed; maybe not. But when we’ve got the final candidate we’re going to have to play for keeps, and that’s going to be hard to do if we don’t learn to recognize the political agitators and their methods.

I totally agree with you and as usual your logic is impeccable.

I think on your take on women going for obama we have just been out strategized by slick con men.Axelrod is so adept at astroturfing people into believing anything and has complete control over the media. We are just getting to the point where we can counter him,it aint easy.

One problem we have is that the rats run for office 24/7--365 while we run only at the last minute and then try to stick to the issues while they are tearing us apart on non-issues before we even get started.

Fortunately for the most part we getting wise to how they play the game.We realize they will use any diversion to keep from talking about the real issues of the campaign and if we cave to those issues, as you say, we are falling into rat trap # 728 of 10,000 that are out there.

In this case I see your point of sticking with Aikin to the bitter end but I really think he just beat himself.He fell into rat trap # 729 and his numbers are showing it.

My biggest worry is not for us to let them have a national issue from a local race.

[philman_36]

...I lose track of who said what, and include comments that should have been said to a different party.

Tee-he-he...I know, that's why I accepted your apology in advance.

[muawiyah]

It’s not analogous ~ the stirrup and stapes can work to interrupt or attenuate sound gazillions of times ~ now you try that with a uterus........

[philman_36]

We can't get unnerved when they try and create non-issues to get us away from talking about what the true issues are.
And yet here you are reply after reply aiding and abetting the very lede/meme someone else (most likely liberals) set, which you say we shouldn't do, in the "get Akin" media firestorm.

Color me confused.

[UCANSEE2]

I apologize.

I missed noticing that the first line was in italics, and didn’t check back to the original post (148) to ensure what it came from. I made a BIG FAT INCORRECT assumption.

Maybe I should shut up.

[philman_36]

No, you are definitely to my left...
So that gives you leave to call me a leftist?! BS!

...and you should keep up on your reading so you could better understand the tack I’m taking on the issues on this thread.
I understand all too well "the tack" you're taking.
And thanks for exposing even more of who you really are through your own comments.

[UCANSEE2]

the stirrup and stapes can work to interrupt or attenuate sound gazillions of times ~ now you try that with a uterus........

I tried sticking a microphone up my girlfriend's uterus, but I couldn't tell the results because I'm recovering from a nasty contusion to the head and sleeping in my car.

[muawiyah]

BTW, not a problem in my family. You just decide you want kids and that's it ~ she's pregnant.

I know other folks have difficulties. Again, same problem in my extended family ~ indeterminent infertility ~ they never get pregnant.

An old family church (I discuss it on my ABOUT Page) has some congregations that solved the problem with frequent divorce and remarriage within the congregation. That way everybody gets a chance for having a child. Bill Clintons baby daddy and his mother were members of the same organization. Both he and she were married 5 times.

Now that's not everybody's cup of tea of course......... One of my Great Great grandfather's was married a good two dozen times ~ every race and ethnicity in America in his day ~ he seems to have stopped by Sioux Ste Marie every few years to get a new wife from the many tribes camped there.

He had one child.

[PhatHead]

AND what would your answer have been ?

There are hundreds of answers better than his. Here's one:

"You know, rape is a terrible crime. But right now more than one out of every five pregnancies in this country ends in an abortion - that's over a million a year. We need to build on the culture of life I just described to you - one that values women enough to protect them from rape, and that values the most vulnerable among us - the unborn - enough to recognize their right to life."

I reread his reply, and how you can infer his 'principles' based on this one comment:

"First of all, from what I understand from doctors, that's really rare,"

Why is it relevant whether or not it's rare? What if there were only one pregnancy worldwide resulting from rape? What if there were 100 million? Is the answer different? When you start out by saying "that's really rare," it certainly suggests that your answer would be different if it weren't rare, and that's not a principled position. I suspect he does have a principled position, but his answer did not demonstrate that. His answer sounded to me like he was unprepared for perhaps the most predictable question he could possibly have been asked on his pro-life position. And he blew it.

You say COMMON, he said RARE. It can't be both.

I was really torn about answering this comment, because I suspect you realized right after posting it how silly it was.

What I said was "Why should it matter how common it is?" Another way to say that is: "Why should it matter whether it is common or rare?"

[philman_36]

Well, it started because he gave a dumb answer to a simple question.

That is your opinion! Just because you think his answer was "dumb" you don't get to automatically decide for everybody else that his answer was dumb.

Maybe you should consider how dumb you are since others understood exactly what he was trying to say.