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Sarah Palin takes the initiative
The Hill ^ | August 22, 2012 | Bernie Quigley

Posted on 08/22/2012 11:04:28 AM PDT by Bratch

It was an error for the Republicans to bring in New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie as the key speaker at their convention. While all of the excitement and adventure in politics in the last three years has been among conservatives, Christie is the great, faithless bet against conservatives’ future and a futile attempt to institutionalize the past. At CPAC events these last three years, up to 40 percent of young conservatives yearned for Ron Paul and Judge Andrew Napolitano; STATES’ RIGHTS, SOUND MONEY AND CONSTITUTIONAL GOVERNMENT. The other 60 percent — the National Review crowd, the neocons, the Bush apparatus, the entire Eastern Conservative Establishment — could think only of former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush. Christie is their front man, as animated and clownish as a carny barker at the Dixie Classic. Going into the future, conservatives hold all the cards. But they chose the past. Obviously, they should have chosen former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin as their lead speaker.

Sarah Palin told Greta Van Susteren on Fox last night that she would support a third-party run in Missouri. Not by accident this announcement comes as the Republican convention opens in Tampa, Fla. Like Romney, she misses nothing. Since Palin — and she was the first — came to the aid of Doug Hoffman in NY-23 in 2009, there has been a positive division in conservatism, which will grow and mature in our century. She is the natural leader of this new direction. In time we will see current economic liberalism disappear entirely. It lost its essential economic purpose when large-scale manufacturing left America and America became a place of smaller businesses. It left Democrats with only the most ephemeral lifestyle and cultural issues.

This shift in economy brings a maturity of economic purpose and is a historic shift. If the last century and a half was represented as a proxy fight between Marx and Keynes, the next in America will be between Keynes and Hayek. Two or three years ago at the CPAC events, the Hayek direction — Ron Paul, Judge Napolitano, Texas Gov. Rick Perry, Sarah Palin — took the initiative. Chris Christie’s trickster dance in Tampa will not send it away. If Obama wins this year, Palin will lead (against Christie/Bush) in the Republican primary in 2016. If Romney wins and yields to the tradition (which he will because his life is stuck in 1972) Palin will bring a challenge.

Key here is we are at a generational shift as large and vital as that of the ’60s, but it is a conservative shift. They just didn’t get the memo yet in Tampa.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: hayek; keynes; palin
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I'm a bit uncomfortable with the third-party thing.

It worked in Alaska because the Democrats and GOP-e banded together. I can't imagine how conservatives in Missouri can put together a similar alliance.

We'll see.

1 posted on 08/22/2012 11:04:39 AM PDT by Bratch
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To: Bratch

Even without MO the GOP looks to gain 4-8 Senate seats this year. The Conservative/GOP movement needs to quit being distracted by these Democrat directed attempts at diversion and get back on message.

We need to stop worrying about what the Dems are doing and start making the Dems worry about what we are doing. Akin is a NON issue that Conservatives has all ready spent way to much time obsessing about


2 posted on 08/22/2012 11:08:41 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: MNJohnnie
Akin is a NON issue that Conservatives has all ready spent way to much time obsessing about

NON-Issue?

HUH

I predict this non-issue is going to be a very noticable part of the Convention next week.

3 posted on 08/22/2012 11:15:20 AM PDT by Balding_Eagle (Liberals, at their core, are aggressive & dangerous to everyone around them,)
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To: Bratch

Akin will not be the Republican candidate in November. According to Missouri election law, he has until the end of September to withdraw as long as he (the Republicans) agrre to pay the costs associated with changing the ballot.


4 posted on 08/22/2012 11:22:19 AM PDT by CMAC51
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To: MNJohnnie

Any person that is so ignorant they don’t know better than to use the term “legitimate rape” and state a woman’s body can stave off pregnancy due to rape, is too stupid to walk across the street safely, let alone represent me. And the sad fact is, every senator impacts my interests in the U. S. Senate.

This guy deserves a good old honest ass kicking. I’m thinking the women who got pregnant from being raped, would be the best people to do it.


5 posted on 08/22/2012 11:27:38 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Americans want what Americans always wanted: Better lives for families; little government authority.)
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To: Bratch

Write in Rush Limbaugh!


6 posted on 08/22/2012 11:31:59 AM PDT by FES0844
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To: Bratch
If the last century and a half was represented as a proxy fight between Marx and Keynes, the next in America will be between Keynes and Hayek.

Marx's exploitation theory of labor which states that a free market in labor means subsistence wages, unbearably long hours of work, and inhuman working conditions, plus the idea of Keynes that since a free market in labor with a drop in wage rates will not lead to higher employment,the two ideas combined have had a powerful influence on libtards who believe that the government should prevent such a drop. It has been a fight between Marx and Keynes on one side against free market economists such as Von Mises and Hayek on the other.

7 posted on 08/22/2012 11:32:20 AM PDT by mjp ((pro-{God, reality, reason, egoism, individualism, natural rights, limited government, capitalism}))
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To: Bratch
Sarah Palin told Greta Van Susteren on Fox last night that she would support a third-party run in Missouri.

I doubt Palin's endorsement for a third party run in MO will carry any more weight than it did for Steelman in the primary.

8 posted on 08/22/2012 11:36:30 AM PDT by MEGoody (You shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: Balding_Eagle
I predict this non-issue is going to be a very noticable part of the Convention next week.

If it gets mentioned by a single Republican speaker at the convention, that person should be tossed out on his ear.

Any leadership person who is asked about it by an attendee or by the press should simply say, "He's apologized. It's been talked about enough. Now, let's talk about the economy. . ."

9 posted on 08/22/2012 11:44:58 AM PDT by MEGoody (You shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: DoughtyOne

Guess you didn’t see (or perhaps ignored) the threads that were posted where various medical organizations indicated that stress does, indeed, impact the ability to conceive.


10 posted on 08/22/2012 11:46:47 AM PDT by MEGoody (You shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: MEGoody

I want you to give this some thought.

Yes, long term stress can impact fertility. So can extreme physical endeavors, such as world-class long distance running. Men wearing tight fitting underwear also suffer negative impacts on sperm count. These are ongoing long-term suppressions of reproductive processes.

A short extremely negative incident, is not going to kill a fertile egg. It’s not going to kill invasive sperm. It’s not going to prevent fertilization, or implantation.

The mere existence of mothers who bore children who were conceived by rape, should cause a man to avoid saying anything like what this guy said. The unsaid implication is almost a charge that if the woman did get pregnant, she must have enjoyed it. It’s a terribly despicable thing to imply, even if through sheer stupidity.

I don’t care how many studies there are that imply different, women do get Pregnant when raped. Not every time, but it does happen. It still has to be the right time of the month, so other factors do come into play.


11 posted on 08/22/2012 12:04:49 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Americans want what Americans always wanted: Better lives for families; little government authority.)
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To: DoughtyOne
The unsaid implication is almost a charge that if the woman did get pregnant, she must have enjoyed it.

I certainly didn't read that into what he said.

And just so you know, I'm female. Never been raped myself (thank God) but have a family member who has been raped more than once.

12 posted on 08/22/2012 12:07:56 PM PDT by MEGoody (You shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: MEGoody

And then there’s the issue of a third party run being a terrible idea when it comes to the presidency. Why would it be any better in a state setting? Then there’s the issue of the person who was suggested as a replacement. Ouch.

I certainly hope your mention of the primary result, connects with people.


13 posted on 08/22/2012 12:08:49 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Americans want what Americans always wanted: Better lives for families; little government authority.)
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The mere existence of mothers who bore children who were conceived by rape, should cause a man to avoid saying anything like what this guy said. The unsaid implication is almost a charge that if the woman did get pregnant, she must have enjoyed it. It’s a terribly despicable thing to imply, even if through sheer stupidity.

Your "unsaid implication" is entirely off base. It's simply a gratuitously scurrilous thing to say. There was never any evidence at all that such a thing was even implied. However, the incidence of pregnancy in rapes (about 5.1%)is about one quarter to one fifth that of people actually trying to conceive (20-25%), but that lower number is probably due to a lot of different factors, a number of them having nothing to do with the woman.
14 posted on 08/22/2012 12:12:20 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: MEGoody

If the implication is, that if something terrible enough happens, the body will block fertilization, what’s the implication if the body doesn’t block fertilization? It wasn’t all that terrible???

I’m not making the case that was his intended message at all. I don’t think he realized what the implications of his comments were. None the less, it sure gets you thinking.

BTW: Sorry to hear about your family member.

And thanks for the response.


15 posted on 08/22/2012 12:15:58 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Americans want what Americans always wanted: Better lives for families; little government authority.)
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To: Balding_Eagle

It will be used in ads tying him to every candidate across our great land. Its already being heard in some places. Mass for one. Boxer tied the ticket to it.


16 posted on 08/22/2012 12:17:26 PM PDT by wiggen (The teacher card. When the racism card just won't work.)
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To: aruanan

we don’t actually know the right number in the case of rape since its an under reported crime.


17 posted on 08/22/2012 12:18:58 PM PDT by wiggen (The teacher card. When the racism card just won't work.)
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To: DoughtyOne
A traumatic event can cause a woman to abort, that is a fact. A violent rape would certainly be traumatic. Doesn't happen every time neither would a pregnancy happen every time but both do happen. Akin should have kept his mouth shut about it, if he couldn't say it any better than he did.
18 posted on 08/22/2012 12:26:22 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: DoughtyOne
If the implication is, that if something terrible enough happens, the body will block fertilization, what’s the implication if the body doesn’t block fertilization?

Not will, but may. If you listen to what Akin said, it was pretty clear he was indicating he knew it didn't always work that way.

And thanks. She's doing well now, but it took some years.

19 posted on 08/22/2012 12:30:05 PM PDT by MEGoody (You shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: aruanan
Your "unsaid implication" is entirely off base. It's simply a gratuitously scurrilous thing to say.

You can call it anything you like, and I'll support you saying it.

The fact of the matter is, if you're going to claim that the woman's extreme anguish over an incident will prevent pregnancy, you are defacto introducing the question of what would allow a pregnancy to occur despite the assault.

The choices are, she suffered enough extreme anguish that she couldn't get pregnant.

She didn't suffer the amount of anguish that would trigger the blockage of pregnancy.

I reject the argument out of hand. Women do get pregnant from rape. End of story.

20 posted on 08/22/2012 12:32:24 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Americans want what Americans always wanted: Better lives for families; little government authority.)
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