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The officers he attacks are now civilians with full First Amendment rights. Did SecDef Panetta 'suggest' Gen. Dempsey go nuclear on these vets?

1 posted on 08/21/2012 4:32:50 PM PDT by kristinn
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So, Generalissimo, do as you say, not as you do? You know where your bread's buttered, eh?

Just following orders are ye?

Best condemn those damned swiftboat vets while you're at it too, albeit kinda late.

Damn, whatchu gonna do come November?

103 posted on 08/21/2012 5:45:20 PM PDT by glock rocks (Hey... shut the damn barn! Were you raised in a... um, wait.)
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He’s right, soldiers do. Which makes me wonder why he’s publicly commenting on this.

Ex-soldiers are not technically soldiers anymore, they are civilians and have every right to be political. I’m not talking about the spirit of ‘always a marine, etc. Legally they aren’t soldiers. Civilians. Totally able to get as political as they want.

This particular general is effed in the head.


105 posted on 08/21/2012 5:50:33 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: kristinn
The General is not only wrong, he is a disgrace!

All officers swear an oath to protect and defend the Constitution, not the occupant of the White House. And active duty officers are indeed removed from political activities.

But once an officer of the regular armed forces is shifted from the Active List to the Retired List he can fully and honorably exercise his First Amendment right of free speech.

Should a group of retired officers choose to exercise their First Amendment rights in defense of the Constitution as these have done, their actions should be praised, not deplored.

If the General feels these officers have in any way violated the law, he can recall them to active duty and institute Court Martial proceedings. But this will not happen because the General is wrong.

Must be hell to be a lickspittle for that illegal alien in the White House!

107 posted on 08/21/2012 5:53:32 PM PDT by DakotaGator (Weep for the lost Republic! And keep your powder dry!!)
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the new military is all full of PC, the new Generals or many of them and other officers only care about themselves and get promoted based if they’re a homo, girlie boy, office jockey and a minority.


113 posted on 08/21/2012 6:00:47 PM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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The only person a scumbag Like Ubama and the rats would have as chairman of the US Joint Chiefs of Staff is a homo-hugging liberal. This is why they forced the cowardly Bush to throw Peter Pace under the bus. I’m calling out US military chief General Martin Dempsey. I know he’s a political whore - - and I think he’s also a faggot.


116 posted on 08/21/2012 6:04:09 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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America has a history of ex military officers speaking freely. Sorry, general.


117 posted on 08/21/2012 6:04:18 PM PDT by The_Media_never_lie
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General Martin Dempsey at Nuremberg: “I vas only folloink orders”.
119 posted on 08/21/2012 6:04:30 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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I don't like this guy
121 posted on 08/21/2012 6:12:25 PM PDT by Dogbert41 ("...The people of Jerusalem are strong, because the Lord Almighty is their God" Zech. 12:5)
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The reason he is the top general “today” is due to his open support for Obama, and his support of Gay rights, and continuing that support without a sqeek when Obama devulges classified information on special ops units, personnel and techniques. Yea, these officers should be telling the press they are only former officers due to the political climate in the military “today”.


124 posted on 08/21/2012 6:16:03 PM PDT by Jumper
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Article 88, UCMJ applies to all commissioned officers, even after discharge or retirement.

If not personally contemptuous, ad-verse criticism of one of the officials or legislatures named in the article in the course of a political discussion, even though emphatically expressed, may not be charged as a violation of the article....The truth or falsity of the statements is immaterial.

Prior Enlisted personnel, however are free to express themselves without fear of reprisal... so F#*K that Marxist Kenyan sack of S#*t.

125 posted on 08/21/2012 6:25:06 PM PDT by Feckless (I was trained by the US << This Tagline Censored by FR >> ain't that irOnic?)
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Romney needs to be pressed NOW to pledge to CLEAN HOUSE at the Pentagon in the event he wins, starting with Panetta and this unfortunate individual, Dempsey. Following that, every four-star, along with most three-stars and two-stars, needs to be canned, as well. One-stars need to go, as well.


126 posted on 08/21/2012 6:27:54 PM PDT by man_in_tx (Islam is a Hate Crime. (Blowback: Faithfully farting towards Mecca five times daily!))
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To: kristinn

Saw this guy on the news today after his plane caught the shrapnel. Anybody else see Harvey Keitel in ACU?

While in uniform, servicemen fall under the Hatch act and are prohibited from some areas of political activity.

Once the uniform is in the closet, the Constitution we swore to protect/support and defend is in full effect. And just because one is no longer technically “under oath,” one could bet the farm that he still recognizes “enemies, foreign and domestic!”

Pour it on boys!


131 posted on 08/21/2012 6:36:56 PM PDT by petro45acp ("Don't" read 'HOPE' by L Neil Smith and Aaron Zelman...it will bring tears to eyes. BORE!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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you do not lose your freedom of speech and thought AFTER you leave the military do you?


132 posted on 08/21/2012 6:38:32 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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Screw You Gen-rul SIR!


133 posted on 08/21/2012 6:48:31 PM PDT by Ronin (Dumb, dependent and Democrat is no way to go through life - Rep. L. Gohmert, Tex)
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With all due respect, General Dempsey, I am offended by your remarks which appear to be politically motivated, something one should never hear from a uniformed officer! Former military folks no longer wear a uniform, and we can and will assert our 1st Amendment right of Freedom of Speech. I suggest, general, you review your oath of office including that phrase, “support and defend the U. S. Constitution...” General, you are supposed to be defending my Constitutional rights, regardless of our differences. If I wish to criticize the President and his policies, that is my right. I believe you confuse duty and honor with a misguided sense of loyalty to your Commander-in-Chief. Your loyalty, sir is to your troops, the U.S. Constitution and to the people of the United States!


135 posted on 08/21/2012 6:56:56 PM PDT by Ranger Warrior ("To stand in silence when they should be protesting makes cowards out of men." - Abraham Lincoln)
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Screw the general and get rid of his anti-constitutional ass ASAP. He’ll be the treasonous turd to lead Obammy’s war against his political enemies - Americans.

We need to keep track of these radical pigs who have infiltrated our military and ride them to Wesley Clark’s shed.


136 posted on 08/21/2012 6:59:27 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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143 posted on 08/21/2012 7:31:56 PM PDT by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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The military is justly praised and respected by most Americans, but it is also our largest bureaucracy filled with bureaucrats ready and willing to kiss the CinC’s butt and do his bidding in most any circumstance.

Nothing newsworthy about the fact that this general is doing Obama’s bidding, especially not when former military personnel exercise their right to free speech, which they have every right to do.


145 posted on 08/21/2012 7:43:40 PM PDT by Will88
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LOL!

Where was General Martin Dempsey when all those bastard Generals were bitching about Bush? I don't remember him coming to Bush's defense, therefore, he has absolutely no credibility with me, especially since this Administration abused the SEALs and the CIA so with its damaging leaks.

148 posted on 08/21/2012 7:52:41 PM PDT by Chgogal (WSJ, Coulter, Kristol, Krauthammer, Rove et al., STFU. TY)
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This general is wrong. It is traditional and historical and legal, that when a person in the military disagrees with a governmental policy or act, that person is supposed to retire and speak out. That is the honorable course. So this political beast wearing a uniform, is playing politics himself- to the disgrace of the country and his uniform.


152 posted on 08/21/2012 8:11:51 PM PDT by fini
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