Posted on 08/20/2012 2:57:24 PM PDT by AstralisLux
A doctor at Cook Children's Medical Center in Fort Worth, Texas denied a 12-year-old gun-shot victim food and water and slipped a "do not resuscitate" order in the patient's chart, without the parents' knowledge. In Texas, the doctors' actions are protected by law. Now the patient is facing a so-called death panel where the doctor and hospital will give the patient and patient's family ten days to find another healthcare facility or they will stop treating the patient.
Read more at Spero News...
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Spero News released it today as “Breaking News” in an email alert.
You know, maybe they’re the first?
I like your healthy skepticism, but I’m familiar with Texas death panels and I know this is true. There are many similar cases and they all follow the same pattern.
“A news outlet like a place that has reporters and checks facts and talks to principles. Like a local news outlet. This was a pretty big story and it appeared in print and on TV stations.”
Doctors and hospitals don’t talk about these issues. HIPPA.
Spero News isn’t a news outlet. It does news analysis.
They had no new information. They have a story told by the parents. Parents who currently don’t have custody of their 8-year-old. Parents who had two children involved in a drug-related shooting.
The earlier articles talk about things that happened earlier. The Spero News article speaks aobut things that happened at the same EARLIER time. Those two versions don’t match. The spero news isn’t saying the parents learned about the request for organs later.
That is the most obvious and glaring red flag. According to the Spero News story, the parents were IMMEDIATELY told that their child was dead, and to donate the organs.
But stories in other news outlets starting 3 days after the shooting, and up to 3 days ago, never mention this. All the other stories talk about hope, talk about progress, or talk about no further progress. Not ONE mentions that the parents were initially told the child would never make it.
Why would family members not mention this once, in all the other stories? According to Spero, the request for organs happened back around August 6th when the shooting happened. But we are just learning about it now, August 20th, and not in any previous article.
At BEST, it seems the parents stayed completely silent about all the issues they are raising now. And instead of trying to get a news outlet onto the story, they chose this guy who writes articles for Spero News. Why?
Yes, there could be reasons why. I’m not saying this shows the story is false. I’m saying this casts doubts on the story, and raises questions about why the parents are telling the story.
Maybe the story will become a real news story tomorrow. Until it does, I remain skeptical. Not because I don’t believe it could happen. But because there are too many things in this story that don’t make sense, and it is all told from a single point of view, one that may have a good reason to be biased or misleading.
That’s fine. I don’t see the conspiracy you do and I bet in more time and more will leak out.
When someone is hurt and in the hospital, they always talk about hope. They don’t talk about how someone is “not going to make it.”
But as they sit in the hospital for a few days, the real story develops as they observe more. I’ve seen this happen with other death panel cases. It’s tragic and they all follow the same pattern.
Charles,
The mother doesn’t believe her son is dead like the doctor does.
Big difference. To her, he’s getting better. To the doctor, he’s a bundle of nerves.
So when you compare her statements, consider how she views her son.
And yet the Spero News story suggested they did. But as I said, all the information in the story must have come from the parents.
Do you seriously believe that, if the parents were asked on August 6 or 7th to donate their child’s organs, that nobody in the family would have mentioned that at the rally for the boy? or when they spoke to reporters for news organizations?
Why is it that the only reference on the web to this denial of food and water is this spero news forum article?
Maybe someone will get more information. Maybe it will be a news story some day. Right now, it’s the story told by parents. They could be absolutely telling the truth. There is simply no evidence provided for that. Just a story.
I know the story is real. When Brian Williams comes and tucks you in tonight and tells you what is real news, let me know if he brings this up.
Again, I respect your healthy skepticism, but I think you’re going overboard.
Exactly. Right now everything is second hand, nothing is confirmed, and a lot of red flags are up.
A friend of the mother -- who faced a similar ethics panel decision for a family member at a different hospital -- told her to contact Texas Right to Life to help protect her son's life from the hospital.
This crap just aint supposed to be this way !!!
You must not get out much....or at least haven't read what's been going on in Europe (particularly the UK), Canada, or met people in the third world that have had bones set with wood screws where any medication at all will do, whether it is for that ailment or not.
“I am extremely skeptical. They name names of everyone BUT the actual doctor.”
Then do what my cousin who is a nurse said to do. Name every doctor who is listed on their website. Give the names and email address of ALL OF THEM. Then when they are all hammered by media and publicity pressure you had better believe the finger pointing will happen!!!
Few doctors work for hospitals Morgana. Doctors are typically in private practice, and have admitting privileges at hospitals. You won’t find a list of doctors with privileges on the hospital website.
Fernandez was shot in the back of the head while in the backseat of a car that police said was fleeing the scene of a drug deal on North 9th Street in Abilene last week.
Police arrested 21-year-old Christopher Mack for the shooting that injured Fernandez and an 8-year-old boy who was also in the backseat of the car.
Texas should then allow the family to shoot the doctor!
Yea but most hospitals have a website with all the doctors who have admitting privileges.
Take a look at this example...
http://www.st-marys.org/physician_directory/
This hospital calls it a physician directory. This is a list of every doctor that comes in and out of that hospital. This hospital in Texas has to have a site like it. Five will get you ten it was one of those MF’ers who did it. So list them all!! Don’t care what they do list them all. After the bad publicity they will finger point. I promise you that.
Well what do you know? http://www.cookchildrens.org/FindCare/Pages/SearchbyPhysician.aspx
Only 3 neurosurgeons. But before I started emailing, I’d really wait for this story to be verified. I’m not at all convinced there is any truth to it.
VERY GOOD! YOU GET A GOLD STAR.
Now remember doctors do stick together BUT if you go after all of them and bring bad publicity or even criminal charges to all of them you had better believe doctors will finger point in a New York minute.
Unbelievable! The doctor(s) and the hospital need to be sued for criminal malpractice.
“Few doctors work for hospitals Morgana. Doctors are typically in private practice, and have admitting privileges at hospitals. You won’t find a list of doctors with privileges on the hospital website.”
Wrong. I’ve been a nurse at numerous hospitals for many years & I can say that at a large hospital like Cook, they should have drs listed on their website. Yes, some are in private practice, but most are not. Most belong to physician groups that are contracted to provide services at hospitals.
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