[bray]

Why would I kiss that money goodbye? Because I love my Country and that is the only way to save it. The end of Medicare and Social Insecurity are the only way out of this mess.

Who said we needed to retire for happiness?

[kabar]

The end of Medicare and Social Insecurity are the only way out of this mess.

We have 47 million on Medicare and 54 million on SS now. Those numbers will increase dramatically over the next 20 years. There is no way these programs are going to end. There is absolutely no political will to do so. They must be reformed not ended. That is just a political reality.

[TomGuy]

Obamacare is a 'share the wealth' scheme regarding Medicare. It takes from YOUR benefits -- the moneys you and your employers have paid in for YOU -- and uses that 'share' to cover those who did NOT pay in.

It also basically destroys the Medicare Advantage program that is currently in operation in many states. That program provides more benefits to seniors than regular Medicare.