Posted on 08/14/2012 9:43:46 AM PDT by John S Mosby
"The DOC NOAA National Weather Service - Western Acquisition Division, Boulder, requires the following items, Purchase Description Determined by Line Item, to the following: LI 001: 16,000 rounds of ammunition for semiautomatic pistols to be factory-loaded .40 S&W caliber, 180-grain jacketed hollow point (JHP). No reloads may be used with these weapons. All service furnished ammunition for issued firearms will be U.S. factory production. Inside Delivery to locations below:
(Excerpt) Read more at fbo.gov ...
Which is fine if it's a 135gr bullet coming out of a .40S&W, not so effective as you define with a 180gr. Never understood why they made them in that weight.
Imagine being a NOAA employee stuck in New Orleans during the lawless post-katrina time with NOAA computers and gear surrounded by looters.
that is the standard .40 round designed for penetration, good 180's will expand at close range. That is also what most factory .40 recoil springs are designed to use.
purpose of the .40 is less recoil than 10mm but more penetration than 9mm. This came about after the famous miami shoot out. (don't bring pistols to a rifle fight)
When you go to the fbo sites to see the breakouts of bids being solicitied, you will see that, prior to this time- the Social Security Administration and NOAA have never placed an order for ammunitions This is not been part of their yearly budgets. This is something new. And "rationally reasonable" citizens should question why.
You will also see that there's been more contracts opened for ammo and explosives since Jan. 1, 2012, than in the entire preceding decade, COMBINED.
Who's doing the buying? Beside the expected typical Army/Navy/Airforce/Federal police you might expect. But there are these NEW items
The Department of Agriculture. https//:www.fbo.gov/index?s=opportunity&mode=form&id=8bb33b0ca7d8acf88bf764c7b57a7938&tab=core&_cview=0
The Social Security Administration is buying ammo? https://www.fbo.gov/index?s=opportunity&mode=form&id=6c39a2a9f00a10187a1432388a3301e5&tab=core&_cview=0
TSA is buying plastic explosives? RDX explosives (sure that's for training---LOL-- we already have ATF experts who know all about this stuff). https://www.fbo.gov/index?s=opportunity&mode=form&id=841df7511fccae65a083999234e23346&tab=core&_cview=0
More requests for ammo than ever before, and uniquely non enforcement agencies are being armed . Larger quantities than ever before: even as foreign wars wind down and there should be (and is) a surplus of ammunition. For what purpose? Even as our Justice Dept has sent thousands of firearms to Mexico to "prove" US citizens and companies are supplying arms to "terrorists", observationally speaking. And our veterans are categorized by DHS as a category of risk groups for terror!
The IRS??? But "it's not a tax".... but it is/ not...what?
Last I checked, they are indeed "armed" enforcement, although Harry Reid says that federal income tax is "voluntary".
Nobody I know personally, of course. 5.56 will be plentiful enough when the SHTF.
They are specifying "factory loaded", which is understandable due to the "Kaboom" failures with the .40 cal Glocks (guessing that's what these are for). Reloads are a primary underlying cause.
So the question is... Does it make any sense to do "Minority Set-Aside" type contracts in this situation? Seem's like a buy-re-sell while the Government gets a higher price.
Facts, verifiable bids and unique purchase items are NOT conspiracy based. They are facts,assuming that what is on federal sites is true.
In a representative democratic republic someone should be asking why this is being done. All very "reasonably" of course. We get the elected officials we choose and in the executive branch we have a red diaper doper baby... and there are FACTs to back that up. This "executive" has made executive dictat orders his norm, bypassing congressional and Constitutional oversight and extending his police powers over the citizenry. These agencies being uniquely armed to protect them from... the people who pay for them provably without congressional budgetary approval for the funding... these agencies serve this red "executive"
Very funny screenshot from "A Beautiful Mind" (a FICTIONAL story with this scenario that NEVER happened with the real Professor Nash) brought to you by Hollywood red diaper doper babies from Andy Griffith (little Opie dopie was the producer). Very important to separate fact from fiction and not take cues from red media. This IS happening- so sorry you think it a "theory".
Many apparently are comfortable with venture socialism (RINOs for instance) of any kind, even if it serves opportunistic leftist fascism on the political spectrum. Certainly it is comforting to large govt. contractors staying afloat or the Beltway Bandit parasites who represent them and lobby for them.
However, for regular freedom-loving law abiding conservatives it cannot be "business as usual" or yet another acceptable cultural new normal.
GunnyG and others with mil service... comments?
Don’t think that I’d practice with JHP ammo just to punch holes in paper targets. A little pricey.
OMG!! ANOTHER HORRIBLE FREEPER NAUTICAL TRAGEDY. At this rate we might end up with as many nautical tragedy victims as perished in the Titanic sinking.
Good point on the 180 grain round. I contend this is not for target practice. And, again the quanities listed are for the “set aside” bid... not the full quantities being ordered the remainder of which are not publicly disclosed. Thanks!
Designs like Speer's SB stuff will, but there is no specification in the bid.
You are forgetting...this is the FEDERAL GOBMENT.
FRegards,
“Dont think that Id practice with JHP ammo just to punch holes in paper targets. A little pricey.”
A little pricey? Since when did cost matter to the goverment? A case in point, Congress has not passed a budget in three years.
The entire Federal Government bought 1,000,000,000 rounds the last two years.
Looks like the storm chasers are going to be packing.
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