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Young in G.O.P. Erase the Lines on Social Issues
The New York Times ^ | August 8, 2012 | Susan Saulny

Posted on 08/10/2012 2:18:06 PM PDT by EveningStar

CHARLOTTE, N.C. — Matt Hoagland, the county leader of a group of young North Carolina Republicans, is busy trying to ramp up enthusiasm for Mitt Romney at the grass-roots level. So there are a few things he avoids mentioning to prospective young voters he wants to woo, including the hot-button topics like abortion and same-sex marriage, which have dominated campaigns past.

“Social issues are far down the priorities list, and I think that’s the trend,” Mr. Hoagland, 27, said. “That’s where it needs to go if the Republican Party is going to be successful.” ...

Some young conservatives ... continue to oppose abortion and same-sex marriage but say they are playing down their personal views because they have made the calculation that such issues will not be a factor in this year’s races...

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: abortion; gop; homosexualagenda; socialconservatives; socialissues; youth
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To: swamprebel
The problem is that 100 million Americans are on welfare and about 30 million are receiving EBT cards. The data shows that most wait until their checks stop coming before they find work. This is Federal government data and I am referencing Rush on this. 1/3 of all US citizens are out of work and living off of those of us that are working... but not all of them want a job... and those are the ones that support obama.

LLS

61 posted on 08/10/2012 4:27:33 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Don't Tread On Me)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Why? The schools that they attend have indoctrinated them into a mindset of accepting homosexuality as more legitimate than heterosexuality and they have been brainwashed into believing that homosexual rights equate to the Civil Rights era and are one in the same. It is demonic.

LLS


62 posted on 08/10/2012 4:30:16 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Don't Tread On Me)
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To: EveningStar
“Social issues are far down the priorities list, and I think that’s the trend,” Mr. Hoagland, 27, said. “That’s where it needs to go if the Republican Party is going to be successful.” ...

Go right on thinking that, son. You'll lose. Lots of people in this country understand that conservatism without a social base is a conservatism of mere convenience, which blows in the wind and stands for nothing.

In short, it's Mitt Romney.

63 posted on 08/10/2012 4:30:16 PM PDT by Colonel_Flagg (Conservatism is not a matter of convenience.)
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To: savagesusie

“VIRTUE is the most important element in a free Republic.”

You are so right. Virtue is a sword given to us by God. Those who can wield the sword are warriors for Him.

Virtue is concomitant with honor. Honor tells a man to stand his ground to protect his family and community because it’s virtuous. Mothers protect their children because they are honorable and virtuous.

You are so obviously 18th century and savior-faire. :-)

Cheers, savagesusie.


64 posted on 08/10/2012 5:10:27 PM PDT by sergeantdave
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To: EveningStar

Even Rush Limbaugh has no complaints about homosexual marriage.


65 posted on 08/10/2012 5:54:43 PM PDT by donna ("...gay couples raising kids. That's the American way..." -Mitt Romney, 2007)
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To: Kazan
Kazan (Mitt Romney: The greater of two evils)11/08/2011.. WOW

I'm not casting many dispersions, but WOW..

OK, I get it, you APPOSE ROMNEY AT ALL COSTS..Geeeeze

I'll bite, I've read your last 100 posts, (in less than 30 days), which rank about as vile as I've had the displeasure to read on these boards that haven't caused someone to get ZOTED, but I digress.. Assuming anyone is persuaded to take your advice, what is your plan???

66 posted on 08/10/2012 6:18:07 PM PDT by carlo3b (Less Government, more Fiber..)
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To: sergeantdave

“Virtue is a sword given to us by God.” (worth repeating).

Thanks, again. I mostly read things prior to the 19th century-—unless I want to vomit and figure out what the evil Marxists/Postmodernists/Leftists/homosexualists are up to, as they try to kill God and Virtue.

That idea of the importance of Virtue goes back to Socrates and it is sad that for thousands of years that concept was understood by so many geniuses, especially the Founding Fathers. There is a Culture War-—as W. Chambers stated in his book, Witness-—(1952) God vs. Man and Man is winning. We have to stop this great evil ideology/philosophy of Marx which obliterates the Natural Family and God. It will destroy and enslave billions of more people.

I am always aware of who wins this war in the end, though. :)


67 posted on 08/10/2012 6:29:49 PM PDT by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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To: RIghtwardHo

Well, the problem remains the little uninformed Republican primary voters, too busy making money to study the political scenario.


68 posted on 08/10/2012 6:44:04 PM PDT by Theodore R. (Past is prologue: The American people have again let us down in this election cycle.)
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To: EveningStar

As long as Jesse Helms remained in the Senate, he held back singlehandely the liberal floodgates in NC. Since his death, the state has become liberal beyond all expectation. I think the liberalism of NC may be here to stay. Even Asheville, once a Republican town, now has an all-Democrat city council though it is elected on a nonpartisan basis. Wilmington seems certain to stick with Democrats too. Have the Republicans given up on Charlotte? And the Golden Triangle was lost even before Helms. Jesse, the Tar Heels really needed you to give them guidance!


69 posted on 08/10/2012 6:48:06 PM PDT by Theodore R. (Past is prologue: The American people have again let us down in this election cycle.)
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To: Kazan
“Social issues are far down the priorities list, and I think that’s the trend,” Mr. Hoagland, 27

Funny, many polls have shown the youngest generation of voters to be the most pro-life.

Those two statements are not in conflict.

70 posted on 08/10/2012 7:05:07 PM PDT by EveningStar
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To: savagesusie
it's not often that i can contribute, but i wanted to share: “Virtue is persecuted by the wicked more than it is loved by the good.” ― Miguel de Cervantes Saavedra, Don Quixote
71 posted on 08/11/2012 4:47:33 AM PDT by Retch_Sweeney (Men to whom God is dead worship one another...Harry Crews)
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To: sergeantdave
hey dave, what say? wanted to share: “Virtue is persecuted by the wicked more than it is loved by the good.” ― Miguel de Cervantes Saavedra, Don Quixote
72 posted on 08/11/2012 4:48:39 AM PDT by Retch_Sweeney (Men to whom God is dead worship one another...Harry Crews)
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To: savagesusie

"The "idiot," I have said, is at times close to that boundary line where every idea and its opposite are recognized as true. That is, he has an intuition that no idea, no law, no character or order exists that is true and right except as seen from one pole – and for every pole there is an opposite pole. Settling upon a pole, adopting a position from which the world is viewed and arranged, this is the first principle of every order, every culture, every society and morality. Whoever feels, if only for an instant, that spirit and nature, good and evil are interchangeable is the most dangerous enemy of all forms of order. For that is where the opposite order is, and there chaos begins.

A way of thought that leads back to the unconscious, to chaos, destroys all forms of human organization. In conversation someone says to the "idiot" that he only speaks the truth, nothing more, and that this is deplorable. So it is. Everything is true, "Yes" can be said to anything. To bring order into the world, to attain goals, to make possible law, society, organization, culture, morality, "No" must be added to the "Yes," the world must be separated into opposites, into good and evil. However arbitrary the first establishment of each "No," each prohibition, may be, it becomes sacrosanct the instant it becomes law, produces results, becomes the foundation for a point of view and system of order.

The highest reality in the eyes of human culture lies in this dividing up of the world into bright and dark, good and evil, permissible and forbidden.

For Myshkin the highest reality, however, is the magical experience of the reversibility of all fixed rules, of the equal justification for the existence of both poles.

The Idiot, thought to its logical conclusion, leads to a matriarchy of the unconscious and annihilates culture. It does not break the tables of the law, it reverses them and shows their opposites written on the back."

--Thoughts on The Idiot, by Dostoevsky
--Hermann Hesse, 1919
http://www.gss.ucsb.edu/projects/hesse/works/idiot.pdf

 

Are we there yet?

 

73 posted on 08/11/2012 6:37:44 AM PDT by OldEarlGray (The POTUS is FUBAR until the White Hut is sanitized with American Tea)
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To: Buckeye McFrog
I must say I am stunned to see the majority of people under age 30 being so totally ambivalent on the issue of gay marriage.

Why? The perverted gay agenda pushers learned long ago that if they could get to the kids early enough, at the kindergarten level and indoctrinate them in the public school system from K-12 and then all through the college years then they have succeeded in bringing down America. The generation of under 35 or so is a lost generation for the most part.

I have personally observed that in general they are Godless, valueless, no scruples, shameless and lack any moral compass to guide them them through life, to know the difference between what is right and what is wrong. Cursing, lying, stealing, cheating are just common everyday occurrences and with no forethought of the consequences. If we are to take back this country back then (Christian) conservatives must regain control of the educational system and do it in a hurry, IMHO.

74 posted on 08/11/2012 3:14:00 PM PDT by Ron H. (Ahh, how's that multi-culturism thing working out for you these days?!)
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To: Retch_Sweeney

Good Find—thanks!!!

I knew there was a reason why that book is one of the Great Books worth reading!!!

I have not read it and I should, since such Wisdom is tucked inside it..... but my stack here is so, so high. :(


75 posted on 08/11/2012 5:16:21 PM PDT by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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