Posted on 08/09/2012 12:27:19 PM PDT by Kaslin
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RUSH: Stephanie Cutter, too. These people are lying through their teeth when they say that they didn't know the details of Soptic's story. Yesterday morning on CNN Starting Point show, they had Stephanie Cutter, Obama's campaign manager... By the way, there's another aspect to this. And I don't think it would amount to anything but it's real. That is the question of coordination. By law, the campaign can have nothing to do with the super PAC. But the campaign has run ads with this guy. There have been two ads featuring Soptic.
One Soptic ad was run by the Obama campaign. The other one, the "Romney Killed My Wife" ad, was run by the super PAC. There's supposed to be no coordination. But people who have analyzed the video notice Soptic's wearing the same shirt in both ads. His hair is the same length, same glasses. His official, union guy hard hat is in both ads. It looks like they're both done in the same place. So people say, "Maybe these two ads that aired months apart were shot the same day."
So is it possible that the campaign is coordinating with the PAC in violation of federal election law? Of course it's possible! In fact, I would submit it's even likely. But who is going to do anything about it? I predict nobody is going to do anything about it. We can mention it. We can volley the allegation. They don't care! Their attitude is, "Make us stop. We don't care. We'll go ahead. We'll violate federal election law. Look it, man, we've got to spare this country from Mitt Romney! Mitt Romney is the ultimate evil."
When you're trying to save the country from the ultimate evil, anything goes. There's no limits on what you can do when you're trying to spare this country experiencing evil. And that's their attitude. So here's Stephanie Cutter. She's with the campaign. She knows Soptic. She worked on the first Soptic ad. They're having a discussion about the PAC ad linking Romney to the death of the guy's wife.
And the host at CNN says (summarized), "This woman died in 2006. This ad basically accuses Romney of killing her. Is that the kind of rhetoric you want to hear in a campaign, especially from the side of the president of the United States? You're the guys who were talking about raising the level of discourse, civility, new politics, post-partisanship. Is this really the kind of rot gut that you want in a campaign coming from your side?"
CUTTER: I don't know the facts of when Joe Soptic's wife got sick or when she died.
RUSH: Oh, really? "I don't know the facts of when Soptic's wife got sick or when she died." Well, on a conference call in May she was listening as Soptic told the same story. This is the steelworker Joe Soptic and Obama campaign manager Stephanie Cutter on the line. Here's a portion of that call...
SOPTIC: A little while later she was diagnosed with lung cancer. I had to put her in a county hospital because she didn't have health care. And when the cancer took her away, all I got was an enormous bill. When you look at what Mitt Romney did at places like GST Steel, you can tell he's only worried about one group of people and that's the people like him, people at the top. You can't expect much more from someone who says he likes to fire people with no concern about what their family really means. Now I'll turn the call back over to Stephanie.
CUTTER: Thank you, Joe. We appreciate you sharing your experiences.
RUSH: Stephanie Cutter -- that's May 14th of this year -- on a call with Joe Soptic as he relates the same story as is in the ad yesterday. Sound bite ten, again, Mike. Yesterday Stephanie Cutter said this.
CUTTER: I don't know the facts of when Joe Soptic's wife got sick or when she died.
RUSH: That's a blatant lie.
But they don't care.
What are we going to do to them? "What are you going to do to us?"
She says, "I didn't know his story." Ms. Cutter, you were on the call. "I don't know his story. I don't know the facts of when his wife got sick or when she died." Well, we just heard you on the call where he tells the story back in May and even turns the call over to you! "I don't know the facts of when his wife got sick," and so then people get exacerbated. (gagging) They're speechless. What do we do? We had this problem with Clinton. What do you do with somebody who blatantly lies?
What do you do? What did you do in high school when somebody blatantly lied? What do you do when your boss blatantly lies? I got fired once for calling a guy on it. I worked for a congenital, pathological liar. And I didn't have any other problem with the guy. I just couldn't deal with it. I couldn't deal with the braggadocios, lying stories. So one day he starts in with these stories. They're all made to make him look big and important and all that.
I said, "Don't give me this. You don't know these people you're talking about. I finally ran into one. These guys never heard of you." And he was stumped, dumbfounded. He didn't quite know what to say. I left, I got home, and 30 minutes later the owner of the radio station called and fired me. People don't know how to deal with liars. I called one of these pathological-type liars on it and I got fired. But most honorable people don't know how to deal with this. And when I say "don't know how to deal with it," I mean they don't know how to make these people pay for this.
They don't know how to make sure there's a penalty.
In this case, the campaign ought not get away with what they're doing. They're lying. And there might be illegal coordination between the campaign and the super PAC. But that's going to require a charge being made and evidence being produced and going to the Federal Election Commission, and we'll get a result next April. The decision will come out next April. So that's when people like me look to the Romney camp.
"Okay, you guys are going to have to do something about this. You can't rely on a bunch of faceless, nameless Tea Party people to get revved up. You can't. You have to deal with this, and that means going after these people. Not on the fact that they lie. Not complaining that they lie. You don't do it that way. You go out and you tell the truth about their destruction of the economy. You go out there and you tell the truth about the fact they're incompetent and they don't know what they're doing and they pose a great threat to the future of the country."
We've got the truth on our side, and that's Obama's economic record. We've got the truth. All we have to do is be unafraid to say it. Cutter? This is the same woman who called Romney a felon. She's the same woman who put the idea out there that Romney is a felon because he was still at Bain when he said he had left Bain. He was still there. She knows. She knows he's a tax-cheating felon. They're still running that ad, the Super PAC is, on their website.
Peter Johnson is a lawyer, a legal analyst on the Fox News Channel. This morning on Fox & Friends they asked him about this. Alisyn Camerota, the guest host, says, "Stephanie Cutter says she doesn't know the details about this guy's wife death and may not know about the details that it was five years later, but clearly she knows Joe Soptic. Is she running afoul of the law here, Peter?"
JOHNSON: Oh, it might be. Under the Federal Election Commission there could be civil penalties and more. The issue is: What's the coordination between the formal campaign and an independent expenditure --
CAMEROTA: Super PAC!
JOHNSON: -- of a so-called super PAC that were created after the Citizen United decision of the United States Supreme Court. In my view that quote, that tape recording shows a real awareness that they were coordinating.
RUSH: Yeah, of course they are. But who is going to do anything about it? And to pile on, here's Soptic himself. January of this year. He's on a public TV program called Democracy Now! The host is Amy Goodman. She's interviewing him. This guy has been a Democrat trick pony for I don't know how many months. He's a Democrat Party activist. He's not this beleaguered citizen. He reminds me of somebody else's name I can't think of right now. I can't remember it. What was her name? Anyway, he's an activist. He's on a public TV program in January talking about this, and in this interview, he's talking about when Bain Capital bought his steel company, GST.
Amy Goodman said to him, "So what happened, Mr. Soptic?"
SOPTIC: They became very, uh, union non-friendly. I mean, they started looking for ways to eliminate jobs. In my case, in my department, they actually offered to buy our jobs out from underneath us.
RUSH: He was offered a buyout! Bain offered to buy him out. They didn't just fire your little butt. They offered a buyout, and you would have had the money to buy health insurance. Here's Sununu talking about this later on Fox.
SUNUNU: Obviously, if that is true, then you have, again, this honesty by omission by the Obama campaign, and unfortunately by this gentleman whose tragedy we empathize with. But, boy, if that turns out to be true, then what he has been griping about toward Mitt Romney is certainly a misrepresentation.
RUSH: Oh, yeah. "Misrepresentation."
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Or are you a coward and can only do things on the sly?
I forgot. I think it was about the broad who said Romney is a felon.
Besides, I have no proof where Fred is other than his claim (including his home page) to be an Aussie and the implication thereof that he lives in Australia. People claim many things on the Internet that aren't true and I have no way to know if he is or isn't actually an Aussie or that he's currently living in Australia. I simply have to take his word for it or the word of people who have actually met him.
He could live right here in America and still be an Aussie. He may have already admitted as much, I simply don't follow him to know. I'm sure he'll eventually get around to putting me to right. Have you been to Australia to meet him or do you just go with the assumption that he really is in Australia based upon information he's disclosed?
At the time you wrote the above, I wasn't really all that interested, I did think it was a little odd that you would suggest that a freeper can't really know where another freeper lives or who he is unless they meet each other personally. That's pure weird, that is. Some are all over the world. But I let it go, you had brought nothing but criticism to any discussion in which your name appeared, and some of the responses to comments I made were so acidic, so provocative, I reached the conclusion you had some sort of anti-social condition. And I left it at that.
Now comes the moment! Now it comes home to me. I've been posting here since 2003, and no one has ever insinuated that I am anything but an Aussie. I could be an eskimo posing as a calathumpian, what difference would it make? FR is structured so that you can tell the members where you are or not. Many Home Pages are blank.
So let's get back to what I wrote about in my previous comment to you. Just who was it you told, or let them believe (to use your smarmy turn of phrase) you were a lawyer, and that where I really lived needed to be investigated?
I told you, that freeper wrote to me and told me she had kept every single private message ever sent to her. So you can count on it, that she still has it.
AND WHAT HAPPENED NEXT? MY IP ADDRESS WAS TRACKED.I RECEIVED A LOG WITH MY IP NUMBER AND TIMES RIGHT DOWN TO THE SECOND OF WHEN I ACCESSED ANOTHER FREEPERS HOME PAGE. JUST HOW DID YOU DO IT?
Got it. I’m back on track now. This all makes sense.
Having said that, not being a lawyer doesn't stop me from thinking or writing like one, does it? Do you assume I've no lawyers as friends with whom I've never interacted with or learned from over the years?
SMARMY
And as you say...FR is structured so that you can tell the members where you are or not.
And, as has happened here before, people make up false narratives.
There have even been men posing as women on here.
Unless someone has met you in person you could be anybody or anywhere. You could be making up the whole Aussie persona. Who would know if nobody has ever met you?
AND WHAT HAPPENED NEXT? MY IP ADDRESS WAS TRACKED.I RECEIVED A LOG WITH MY IP NUMBER AND TIMES RIGHT DOWN TO THE SECOND OF WHEN I ACCESSED ANOTHER FREEPERS HOME PAGE. JUST HOW DID YOU DO IT?
Perhaps you should speak to management. I don't have that kind of power or authority at this website.
Somebody's imagination is getting the best of them.
And I've promptly corrected any assumptions that I was a lawyer.
I'm just a regular working class Joe, dirty nails and all, who had a desire to inform and educate himself beyond the crappy education our government provided me and did so.
I used to enjoy give and take with you.
But then I experienced another side of your behavior, which is fiendishly unpleasant. That is why I did not add your name, as I don’t wish to communicate with you.
You are putrid. You are disgusting. Your brains need laundering. Coming into contact with you even at this distance, has been a most revolting experience. You are being called a liar. That’s a compliment. I can’t tell you here what I think you are.
And being banned from FR as the result of telling you what I think of you - I will take that as a compliment to me.
Get some help. There is medication for what ails you. Do me the courtesy, never mention my name again or try to suggest I am anything but an Australian. And men pose as women, do they? POSE? We all post under a screen name, most of which are GENDER NEUTRAL. You really are a piece of work.
For EIGHT YEARS I enjoyed considerable credibility on FR, it didn’t come easily, it wasn’t a gift, and THEN YOU COME ALONG. With your insinuations. UNFOUNDED. You are NOT here to debate, your objective is to DESTROY. And I won’t let you, got that?
Now I suggest you get busy and write your accomplice and tell her how Fred Nerks has been rude to you and probably lives in Russia, she’s an old woman and is really a commie plant. Go on and do it, you know you want to. My recommendation to freepers is, for goodness sake...don’t write any private mail messages to this person. You’ll live to regret it. They’ll come back as arrows fired from a crossbow.
That is why I did not add your name, as I don’t wish to communicate with you.
Then you shouldn't make comments like the one you made.
So I am the "perp" in question then, right "I'm not a researcher"?
(it's hard work to keep one's self honest)
Did you say something?
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Need for Stimulation
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***. That is my final comment to you on FR.
Looks familiar.
I hope she's reading this.
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