Posted on 08/06/2012 6:43:11 AM PDT by PJ-Comix
Joe Biden is taking another week off.
According to his official White House schedule, "The Vice President and Dr. Jill Biden will be in Rehoboth Beach, Delaware. There are no public events scheduled." Just one month ago, Biden and his wife, Dr. Jill Biden, took the week of July 4 to vacation. That vacation was also spent at Rehoboth Beach, Delaware.
Biden's second week-long vacation in as many months is likely to fuel speculation that President Barack Obama is considering dropping the veteran politician from the ticket this election. Biden's frequent errors and gaffes in office and on the campaign trail have been the source of much consternation for the Obama administration, and have resulted in strong calls for Biden to be dropped from the ticket.
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No. It is important to understand that you can’t keep up that rate of gaffes without a recovery period. It takes a massive toll to keep churning out those gaffes.
Poor Joe has been expending so much energy the the past 3.5. years keeping those gaffes coming almost daily. He has to rest up as there is an important home stretch in the campaign that is straight ahead. Joe is needed given there is so little time and so many potential gaffes to unload.
Some argue that the 22nd only counts for election as President and if elected as VICE President he would be eligible to serve - but that doesn't seem to be the prevailing opinion.
Obama needs Biden to make himself appear intelligent.
She would be approved by acclamation at the Dim convention as she still has substantial support within the donkey party.
She would be hailed as a great bridge between the Left and the extreme Left which now divides its ranks.
Plus, Obama wants to win so badly he would put the bride of Frankenstein on his ticket.
And he may yet do so.
Leni
That was from where my misunderstanding stemmed. I thought the 22nd only applied to election of the President. If Obama were to be Vince-Fostered, I figured Clintoon could get another 4 years of philandering.
Say it ain’t so, Joe, idiot that you are.
Other than saying stupid things, Joe has always been the nothing VP. There is a reason for that.
Thanks. What you said.
But as to your question - Adams served as President then as the Vice President under Jefferson, his political rival - back when the rules provided that the person who won the second most votes in the Electoral College would be the Vice President.
Thomas Jefferson had served as Adam's Vice President - so they exchanged places effectively.
I hope not for two reasons: First right now the polls are showing the race as neck and neck. We need to be well above the percentage of fraud.
Second Joe Biden is just so much fun to watch. He is a walking talking gaffe machine and I actually enjoy wondering just what stupid thing he is going to say next.
You got that correct. Libs claim he could do almost two more years but that’s only if he took over another President’s term for less than two years. There is no partial term for him no matter what they think.
My bad - confused by reading the chart - Adams was VP under Pres. Washington. Then Jefferson was VP under Pres. Adams. Then Aaron Burr was VP under Pres. Jefferson.
From the list I cannot see a single example of a President later serving as Vice President.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Vice_Presidents_of_the_United_States
Hillary has made a complete mess of our foreign policy and the whole Muslim brotherhood in the state department issue is not going away. He would be a fool to pick her. He may be getting ready to pick another running mate but it isn’t going to be Hillary.
While I interpret it the way you do, there is a school out there which argues that the narrow wording of the 22nd Amendment defines qualifications for election to the presidency, while the 12th Amendment defines qualifications for service as POTUS. Those on this side of the argument would contend that Clinton (or GWB, for that matter) could sit on the ticket as VP and assume the presidency if needed, but would not be able to run for, or be elected to the office.
In short, a SCOTUS ruling would be in order to really say one way or the other, but it has never been tested.
The 22nd doesn't say that a two term President couldn't SERVE as President - just that they couldn't be elected.
However the 12th Amendment says “But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States” and that would almost certainly include the prohibitions on being ELECTED - so one ineligible to be elected as President - also couldn't be elected as Vice President.
So if the 12th means that Bill Clinton couldn't be ELECTED as Vice President - because he would be ineligible to be elected as President - the only way he could possibly serve as President again would be to be appointed as Vice President - or to be the Speaker of the House (or lower on the succession) when the President AND Vice President die or are otherwise unable to serve.
Thank you, sir! I didn’t want to speak out of school, so I thought I’d asked. I do recall a lot of back and forth with President and VP back in the early days of our republic.
It was a great system but with one fatal flaw (pardon the pun) to have the runner up in the Electoral College be Vice President.
Imagine if it was President George W. Bush and Vice President Gore under him after the contentious election in 2000- and the rabid hate fest on Bush - amid the ‘West Wing’ fantasies and “popular vote” irrelevancies - there would be an almost fanatical desire on the part of the left to make Gore President via an assassin’s bullet.
If you ask me, I think that’s a better way to do business. Why?
Well, leading up to elections, each party would put forward candidates who would complement each other. Put aside the 2000 election and go back further, and you would have a much different political landscape than today. What would Roosevelt had done with Dewey as VP? Eisenhower with Stevenson? Carter with Ford?
More importantly, how would the Electoral College have changed if this was the way voting had to occur? I think candidacies would’ve been much different. Besides, in my opinion, we SHOULD be voting on both the President and the VP. That would ensure that we had someone in both offices who would be capable of commanding the country.
Nothing.
The VPOTUS is an almost powerless position.
It would change nothing as far as electoral politics or how a POTUS would govern.
And an election for VPOTUS separate from the POTUS election? Yikes - ugly and just about worthless - besides raising the specter of rewarding POTUS assassination with elevation to office of an ideologically opposed person.
The 12th Amendment was an excellent addition and has removed the fatal flaw in giving the VPOTUS position to an ideological opponent of the POTUS.
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