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Are you poor if you have a flat-screen TV?
CNN Money ^ | August 1, 2012 | Tami Luhby

Posted on 08/06/2012 5:55:15 AM PDT by rightwingintelligentsia

NEW YORK (CNNMoney) -- Can you really be poor if you own a flat-screen TV ... or two? Depends on whom you ask.

With income inequality at the center of the national political debate this year, it should be no surprise that conservatives and liberals are coming down on opposite sides of the tracks.

Conservatives point to spending patterns, saying consumption is a better indicator of living standards than income. Using that metric, the nation's poor are living better than they have been in decades, enjoying many of the amenities that the middle class have.

(Excerpt) Read more at money.cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: classism; poverty
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1 posted on 08/06/2012 5:55:24 AM PDT by rightwingintelligentsia
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

I am insulted. They do not even include me.....I would be between 80 and 120 (the much lower side). Are they going to start giving out TV’s now? Cell phones, food stamps, low housing, welfare dollars, lower heating bills. Might as well throw in TV and cable because it is just money.


2 posted on 08/06/2012 5:58:43 AM PDT by napscoordinator (Attention Republican National Convention voters....Santorum/Bachmann 2012! Dump liberal Romney NOW!)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

Obviously the “income” number is meaningless.

But since it helps the liberal goal of dependency, the MSM will continue to consider it gospel.


3 posted on 08/06/2012 5:59:29 AM PDT by nascarnation
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

World median income is about $2/day.
If you’re living on more than half the world’s population, you’re not poor.
If you’re buying luxury goods at prices which could feed someone for a year (see my tagline), you’re not poor no way no how.


4 posted on 08/06/2012 5:59:45 AM PDT by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

Full cable with lots of premium stations plus a 50” LED TV...... Lots of our “poor” have setups like that. Because they are making off the books money while getting all kinds of Gov’t money and subsidies. These chiselers are always networking and exchanging tips on how to get more out of the Gov’t. How about a tip on who to see at the SS office to get your children crazy checks which are disability payments because the kid got an autism diagnosis. What friendly shrink to see who will give your child the right diagnosis.


5 posted on 08/06/2012 6:02:16 AM PDT by dennisw (Government be yo mamma - Re-elect Barack Obama)
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To: dennisw

I’m not poor so long as I can still borrow money.


6 posted on 08/06/2012 6:05:50 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you really want to annoy someone, point out something obvious that they are trying hard to ignore)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

the “poor” have more disposable income than us working folks, because of all the government freebies; food, shelter, medical care, subsidized utilities, cell phones, transportation and straight up cash (EBT Cards), just to name a few things.


7 posted on 08/06/2012 6:07:21 AM PDT by kevslisababy
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To: napscoordinator

-——food stamps, low housing, welfare dollars, lower heating bills——

The key to access is an EBT card. We have progressed to the point where any one can purchase a device that plugs in to a smart phone to allow payment with plastic.

One wonders if your friendly street corner crack dealer can swipe your EBT card as the Friendly Grocery Store and have us pay for the high?


8 posted on 08/06/2012 6:07:28 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Present failure and impending death yield irrational action))
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

Go to Sam’s or Wal Mart some day and check out the prices of flat screen TVs in the 32” to 42” range. There are quit a few that can be had for under $500 and some that come in under $300. Even somebody with a pretty low income can afford one of those. Indeed, in inflation adjusted dollars, flat screens are really cheap compared to their old CRT predecessors. No way they can be called luxury expenditures.


9 posted on 08/06/2012 6:07:53 AM PDT by libstripper
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

Oh no I’m poor...I have never owned more than one TV. My kids never had them in their rooms. I guess I’ll go be depressed...NOT.


10 posted on 08/06/2012 6:09:25 AM PDT by A Strict Constructionist (We're an Oligrachy...Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God. Thomas Jefferson)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia
With income inequality at the center of the national political debate this year

Is it? Is it really? Because it sounds more like an Obama class warfare talking point to me.

11 posted on 08/06/2012 6:09:52 AM PDT by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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To: dennisw

It would be fun to do a “Breitbart” investigation by somehow getting the cable bills of poor neighborhoods around the country.

A tv station here in Indy got a computer file of where TANF EBT card swipes were made - Vegas, Disney, Nevada brothels, Puerto Rico, NYC, etc.


12 posted on 08/06/2012 6:10:29 AM PDT by nascarnation
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To: napscoordinator

Don’t forget to add schooling for the kids (not just regular k-12—but schooling for 1 and 2 year olds) and free food for them there and medical.

I went over to a person’s house the week before last. She and her kids receive a lot of tax payer benefits. They’ve got a flat screen TV and game system. She’s got a fancy cell phone. Her husband (an illegal) has a newer truck. This person isn’t an evil person, but she’s got a welfare mindset. She was telling me about some small windfalls they came into, but those won’t be saved. They’ll be squandered.


13 posted on 08/06/2012 6:11:11 AM PDT by beaversmom
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To: bert

One wonders if your friendly street corner crack dealer can swipe your EBT card as the Friendly Grocery Store and have us pay for the high?

I didn’t think about this but after pondering for a minute, I am going to say absolutely they can. It is a little machine and they can even name it something like “Lifestyle choice” for the bill and nobody would be the wiser.


14 posted on 08/06/2012 6:11:41 AM PDT by napscoordinator (Attention Republican National Convention voters....Santorum/Bachmann 2012! Dump liberal Romney NOW!)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

“If you took the typical poor household and put them on TV, no one would think they are poor,” he said. “They struggle to make ends meet, but they are not in any type of deprivation.”...There ARE NO poor, or deprived in the US.


15 posted on 08/06/2012 6:12:10 AM PDT by Safetgiver ( Islam makes barbarism look genteel.)
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To: beaversmom

This person isn’t an evil person, but she’s got a welfare mindset.

Most people on welfare are not evil just misguided and so infused in the system that they become the system. It is so sad to see this. Sure they have SOME luxuries but if they would get a career and really start working they would be so much better off.


16 posted on 08/06/2012 6:15:00 AM PDT by napscoordinator (Attention Republican National Convention voters....Santorum/Bachmann 2012! Dump liberal Romney NOW!)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

No. Next question.


17 posted on 08/06/2012 6:17:02 AM PDT by dfwgator (FUJR (not you, Jim))
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To: napscoordinator

I don’t have a flat-screen TV. Not one. (Okay, okay, we do have 5 flat screen computer monitors. But not a single TV. As much as we pay in taxes you’d think Obama could could say “thanks” by buying me one, like he does for his people on welfare.)


18 posted on 08/06/2012 6:19:49 AM PDT by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia
That kind of "poor" is not the kind of "poor" that more money will fix.
19 posted on 08/06/2012 6:23:14 AM PDT by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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With income inequality at the center of the national political debate this year

Only among social-engineering totalitarian leftists.

20 posted on 08/06/2012 6:24:46 AM PDT by Maceman
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