Posted on 08/01/2012 5:54:54 AM PDT by dontreadthis
Jackson County, Oregon says it owns YOUR rainwater, and the county has sentenced a man to 30 days in jail and fined him over $1500, for the supposed "crime" of collecting rainwater on his own property.
The man's name is Gary Harrington, and he owns over 170 acres of land in Jackson County. On that land, he has three ponds, and those ponds collect rainwater that falls on his land. Common sense would say Gary has every right to have ponds with water on his 170 acres of land, but common sense has been all but abandoned in the state of Oregon.
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Permaculture >>> to a large extent means edible landscaping. Meaning fewer ornamentals and more food plants on your property. Such as fruit and nut trees and vegetable garden. Maybe chickens and bees. Lots of freepers practice this on their property and so do I
I have friends who capture rainwater off their roof into barrels. They water their plants and trees with rainwater which they prefer to city water plus it is free
Thanks for the brief history lesson!!that was excellent!
Oh, there are so many laws on the books (everywhere!), and so many of them contradictory, that if THEY want to get you for any reason whatsoever, they will, and all without breaking a sweat.
Just like Ayn Rand warned...
CA....
As I see it, and without explicit written restrictions ... Oil rights, mineral rights and space above land (clouds, delivered contents. etc) belong to the landowner.
How this turns out should be interesting.
Thanks, I really didn’t want to get that deep into the matter, I’ve tried hard to forget the legal side of this. Water rights law in the west has always sucked as it has always seemed to favor the jerks down stream if they had more money or votes. Heck, they even diverted water through the Continental Divide to feed a thirsty Denver.
My concern in this day and age, we could well see the administration try to place the Prior Appropriation Standard on the very air we breathe.
That gave the Iroquis total possession of the creek, it's tributaries, and all the water drinking game animals on the other side.
They may have done it differently in the core area of New York where they had to deal only with other Confederation members and their slaves.
BTW, that gave them exclusive control of the water rights.
“The truth about this issue was posted here earlier in the week. This guy was diverting the river into the ponds”
Yeah, in Colorado this is right up there with cattle thieving. Essentially, all water in Colorado is privately owned, ownership being determined by who grabbed and used it first back in the day, and subsequent grabs thereafter. Water rights are owned, bought, and sold like real estate, and water companies are very similar to condo associations in the way they are operated by the shareholders.
We have a saying in Colorado: “You can steal my wife, but not my water”
Sometimes when you buy land you don't really get the "land" ~ you get a right to exercise surface rights.
It can be very complicated which is why there are lawyers. Even if there were no crime we'd have lawyers fighting over land for us.
And if we keep moving out of the shadow of tyrany, instead of fighting it, we will soon run out of planet eh?
When men claim the rain and air over your land, you are not free, you are a peon.
Yeah, Washington has the same rain shadow effect. But they persicute people with rain barrels on their downspouts to water their gardens. All in the name of “fairness”.
BS. It’s Tyrany with velvet gloves.
Nobody “owns” rain, or air.
While stationed in the U.K., I learned that England’s Subjects are taxed for using screens on their houses because “the Queen’s air flowed through their homes.” While building houses, they pay a special window tax for using “the Queen’s sunlight.”
Maybe we forgot that we’re not subject to the government; the government is subject to us.
Why is it that liberals don’t recognize that their own leaders & policy’s are at the root of every REAL despotism?
“And if we keep moving out of the shadow of tyrany, instead of fighting it, we will soon run out of planet eh?”
Agreed but patriots in Oregon are perhaps too few in number to make an effective fight. Perhaps it is wise to withdraw to a freer state where you can stand with your patriot brothers and make a meaningful stand.
In this case there is much reason to believe that leftist will destroy Oregon and stoon become so disgusted with the monster they created that they will find reason to abandon it. The trick we have to pull off is figure out how to FORCE them to face the things they have done, and admit it was their own doing.
I moved to Alaska... CCW without papers, nice place so far. Blessings on ya my FRiend.
Of course, your well water is next...
The tyranny may or may not. Getting a high population density of cornered 'rats who empower heavily bunkered, unelected bureaucrats causes all sorts of problems.
Where is that interface/transition point?
Nay,
The tables have been turned.
We've been hornswoggled, given the ol' Okie-Dokie, bamboozled, hoodwinked.....
Unless someone can revise the laws of chemistry those limitations are probably not going to change!
The local gov’t’s are the local Warlords, 0bama the King (Dicktater actually).
Sounds like a plan eh!
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