Posted on 07/31/2012 2:58:34 PM PDT by Perdogg
I would like to address an issue that is apparently of concern to a significant number of people. In my “Ask Fred” column, several people have expressed concern (some have been adamant and angry) that Marco Rubio should not be selected as the Vice Presidential nominee because he would not be eligible to be President, if the need arose. They contend that at least one of his parents were required at the time of his birth to have been a citizen for him to fulfill the constitutional requirement of eligibility, even though he was born on American soil.
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The parents do not need to be citizens; they merely need to have consented to be under the laws of the the USA — that is, legal residents.
Both of Rubio’s parents had green cards, and were fully subject to the laws (e.g., taxation) of the USA.
To demonstrate how unbelievably misinformed you are, I present the following:
If Rubio is eligible as you believe, then so are Ahmed and Shaimaa Morsi.
Who are Ahmed and Shaimaa Morsi?
Why they are the children of Egypt’s Muslim Brotherhood President Mohammed Morsi.
There is a reason the Founders specifically included a requirement for the president to be “natural born” — two American citizen parents and born in the USA.
And being a Birther is far preferable to being a GUllible.
http://theobamafile.com/_opinion/Gullibles.htm
HUA disease.
That silly dicta in WKA was about English common law that is a English regulation and not natural law. The English law of Natural born subjects had no distinction between naturalized subjects and natural subjects. Naturalized citizens can become president sport? Nope.
“The US wouldn’t do a thing to them either.”
The USA didn’t do a thing to draft-dodgers who feld to Canada, either.
keyword....indirectly. Even a dog knows when it is time to bury a pork chop bone. That poor pork chop bone has been chewed on way too long. This will do nothing but hurt us in the election. I work with the Republican Party in Texas. I do not know one Republican...even amongst the big dawgs here..who thinks President Obama is not eligible to be President. And they really, really want this argument to go away before it gets any closer to the election. They find it an embarrassment. And makes us look like nuts and kooks.
It all comes down to this - What is the legal definition of NBC (Natural Born Citizen)?
According to Freddie on his page, it simply means being born on US soil.
According to other sources - the original intent and understanding was that both parents had to be US Citizens at the time of birth (on US Soil) for a child to have NBC status.
Both sides present court cases to back up their side. Which is right. I firmly believe that those who crafted the NBC requirement for POTUS had in mind a limiting of foreign influence. I can’t prove that, other than it seems far more consistent with other writings and ideas of the time.
How many times has the US Supreme Court used the term “Natural Born Citizen” to describe any other person besides “those born in the country of parents who are citizens thereof”?
But we all know that case law and the US Constitution are all “living and breathing documents” subject to the interpretation and application of the person doing the interpreting.
UGH
Also, take a look at these citations:
http://nativeborncitizen.wordpress.com/natural-born-quotes/
I disagree with a few of the citations, but they ALL disagree with you!
Things have changed...
Agreed. That's why NBC should be firmed up a bit. Perhaps a NBC is a person born on US soil that has NOT left American soil more than 2 weeks in any one year of their life.
Yes, it would discriminate against anybody that works abroad; but so what? We have lots of other people to draw from. It would allow for even a frequent vacationer to Aruba or London or whatever.
“Why they are the children of Egypt’s Muslim Brotherhood President Mohammed Morsi.
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I don’t know what Morsi’s position was when his children were born, but if he was a representative of the Egyption govnment at the time they are not natural born citizens, but if not they are. There are of course probably many natural born citizens that we would not what to become president, but we are talking here about being legally qualified.
And butter, out of respect for you and for Jim’s forum, I showed great restraint when I repeated the terms the leaders of the Texas Republican Party uses for the birthers and the followers thereof. I will say I do admire the fact you certainly have the courage of your convictions.
There you will find forms for US Passports. In those passport applications you can find references to citizenship requirements of those born outside the United States.
It is commonly accepted that those born on US Flagged vessels, or US Military bases, or US Territories, are NATURAL BORN CITIZENS if they meet any of the parentage requirements -— requirements which have changed over the years.
Since some ignorantly and falsely hold that birth in a US Territory or on a US Military base, by itself, would not qualify for automatic citizenship -— It was necessary to stop that argument by bringing up the fact that McCain qualified due to the valid citizenship claims of both of his parents, at the time of John McCains birth.
Funny that your tag is about courage yet you display none yourself. Preferring to join the alinsky tactics of the left and resort to belittling your fellow freepers instead. You had better hope that this issue stays in the crosshairs especially if Obama wins this November. It may be the only way we can stop him from destroying this country down the road. The man is running around with a fake social security number as well and has lied to the American people. He is a commie mole and you just want to play politics as usual. Good luck with that.
Bump for later reading...
Bet you voted for rino Dewhurst today too. Stop with the name dropping. Most of us could care less if you are involved with big Whigs in the Texas Republican Party. LOL.
No.
Go away, troll!
Go away, troll!
Glad to see your post!
Claire McCaskill was behind this Resolution 511 and Orin Hatch supported it from what I’ve heard.
Some refer to it as “the Arnold Ammendment” for Schwarzenegar (sp?), but, truly as a means to get McCain the nomination and Jindal or Rubio “approved”, ‘cause they’re considered up-and-comers, not to mention the fact it covered for Bath-House Barry, too.
Another interesting tidbit is the fact that there was NO RECORDED vote on 511, but, it “passed”.
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