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US shooter 'was psychiatric patient' (James Holmes)
9 News ^ | 7/28/2012 | 9 news

Posted on 07/27/2012 7:12:30 PM PDT by RummyChick

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To: Bryanw92

“They could probably disarm 25% of the country this way and Obamacare will give them easy access to your records. For your own safety, of course.”

True, but they could only disarm that many Americans because so many Americans are DRUGGED OUT on that crap.


61 posted on 07/27/2012 9:02:44 PM PDT by BobL
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

“So anyone seeing a shrink should be prohibited from owning firearms?”

No, but it may easily come to that. It’s time that people BUCK-UP a bit and take on life’s problems WITHOUT drugs, for once.


62 posted on 07/27/2012 9:04:00 PM PDT by BobL
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To: Spktyr; xzins
Last I looked they can report the threat but cannot say who it came from, and may only report it if the patient has named someone specifically. “I’m going to kill everyone!” doesn’t qualify.

If a psychiatrist hears a viable threat against an individual, in California they are required to report the threat to the individual who is being threatened. (Tarisoff v. University of California)

I know this because I have had psychiatrists tell me when they have been informed of a threat to kill me. (I have that effect sometimes).

They are required to report the incident or threat to CPS if there is a threat against a child.

63 posted on 07/27/2012 9:05:06 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds.)
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To: RummyChick

interesting post by brother of a schiz0phrenic:

I don’t think this guy is a schizophrenic. You are right, it can onset at any time really. However, this action by this guy appears to be out of the blue. People who knew him would have seen it before his rampage, especially being a student of neuroscience and being around people who are curious about neurology, which is the science that schizophrenia falls under.

From my experience, schizophrenic don’t lash out at random people. They lash out at family and friends. The best way I can describe the violence, there are literally 2 or more worlds in the the mind. One of them being the real world. The mind cannot distinguish between the two. So a loved one or someone who cares trying to help the mind through the issue (whether the person helping knows of the illness or not), can be seen as an enemy in the other world.

So like I would be telling my brother to fight his demons in his mind, those same demons in his mind will be telling him to fight me. The violence is acted out in frustration more than anything. The delusions grow and grow and grow and intertwine and warp and fold into each other and in between worlds even. It takes time to build up those delusions, but once they become entrenched, it is hard to shake them. But they can be untangled and related to the real world. This is what my brother has been able to accomplish.

BTW, I happen to know that A LOT of mental patients “get” Ron Paul.

Anyways, this Holmes guy is a sick puppy

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?384542-Shooter-Holmes-was-being-treated-by-schizophrenia-specialist/page2


64 posted on 07/27/2012 9:05:57 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick

Wonder if this is some made up BS

http://www.indianexpress.com/news/dark-knight-massacre-suspect-obsessed-with-notorious-killer-unabomber/978199/


65 posted on 07/27/2012 9:10:02 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick

“He may not be a schizophrenic but assume that he is...how did he get a grant?”

Heck, it’s a wonder he didn’t get *two* grants.


66 posted on 07/27/2012 9:10:17 PM PDT by PLMerite (Shut the Beyotch Down! Burn, baby, burn!)
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To: RummyChick
I have no idea how far along this scumbag was in his career quest, but as a neuro-scientist, perhaps he was to become a shrink.

IIRC, to become licensed as a psychiatrist you must undergo a psychiatrist examination before earning that title.

???Is it possible that scumbag was far enough along, in his mid 20’s to be undergoing testing himself by this licensed woman???

67 posted on 07/27/2012 9:11:05 PM PDT by Noob1999 (Loose Lips, Sink Ships)
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To: null and void

She looks like she is too eager to “help”.


68 posted on 07/27/2012 9:23:29 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: P-Marlowe

They are required to report the threat to an individual. But from what I have been told, they can’t name the person *making* the threat per HIPPA, which takes precedence.


69 posted on 07/27/2012 9:25:19 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: the invisib1e hand
This is my question, as well.

What is the entire med history of this alleged human?

Other questions, has there been an MRI for brain tumors? What was in his blood the night of the shootings? Who are his friends and acquaintances? What websites and forums does he frequent?

Also, there must be a voter registration history on this alleged human somewhere. My guess? Democrat!

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70 posted on 07/27/2012 9:32:47 PM PDT by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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To: P-Marlowe
You might consider a different line of work. That PI stuff can be dangerous...

;-)

71 posted on 07/27/2012 9:34:22 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: RummyChick

Kcyzinsky gave Lincoln, MT a bad rep.


72 posted on 07/27/2012 9:36:28 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Paladin2; xzins; blue-duncan

I once had a case where the plaintiff was seeing a psychiatrist and the psychiatrist called me to tell me he had threatened to kill me. That didn’t bother me because I had taken his deposition and I really thought he was just a big baby and even though he was nutty as a fruitcake, he was harmless.

Then I subpoenaed his records from the psychiatrist and discovered that in a couple of sessions the guy’s wife (who was not a patient) had told the psychiatrist that SHE wanted to kill me. The psychiatrist was not required to report this threat because under Tarisoff the reporting requirement is only for patients.

I took that threat seriously because I didn’t’ know her from Adam and I figured she probably thought that I was the one who drove her husband crazy and I decided it was time to sub-out on the case. I had enough cases and didn’t need that kind of stress.


73 posted on 07/27/2012 9:46:03 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds.)
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To: RummyChick

sorry my confusion....I took a quick look and 9 News registered in my brain as CHannel 9 News ( which would have been possible). When I clicked on it, I am chagrined-—but only a little.


74 posted on 07/27/2012 10:12:48 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: RummyChick

The PHD candidates were working for psychiatrists at the university, doing lab work in neural science. Interestingly, the Linguist from Berkeley, who has been advising Obama and Elizabeth Warren, George Lackoff, also uses neural science to study how the brain interprets linguistic concepts and applies this to political organizing, or political persuasion. Lackoff was the the source of Obama’s “…you didn’t build that” speech.”


75 posted on 07/27/2012 10:23:15 PM PDT by Eva
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To: null and void
She looks _____?

... happy to see Count Dracula

76 posted on 07/28/2012 12:39:13 AM PDT by dr_lew
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To: RummyChick
Retired now, but once a shrink the rules still linger: Tarasoff v California

Says you must warn if the threat is violent and the victim is declared---Otherwise, confidentiality obtains.

77 posted on 07/28/2012 1:20:17 AM PDT by Rudder
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To: Spktyr

Who told you that?


78 posted on 07/28/2012 1:29:34 AM PDT by Domangart
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To: Domangart

Two hospital lawyers, one therapist I was dating and a second one that I was working with on getting their patient management computer system working.


79 posted on 07/28/2012 1:33:06 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Spktyr
That is valid to the point that they are confined. After that it they are proscribed. Others are then notified and they are now under that persons HIPPA rule. Once on a database always on there. The people with low blood sugar sometimes say they want to kill themselves. That gets them three day's in the hospital, three days at the nut house and a visit from the police for any weapons.
80 posted on 07/28/2012 1:52:01 AM PDT by Domangart
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