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ACLU Attorney: Blocking Chick-fil-A Over Gay Marriage 'Viewpoint Discrimination'
Examiner ^ | JOE NEWBY | JULY 26, 2012

Posted on 07/27/2012 11:40:26 AM PDT by nickcarraway

Although the ACLU strongly supports same-sex marriage, a senior attorney for the American Civil Liberties Union of Illinois warned that if Chicago bans Chick-fil-A over the religious views of its management, it will be engaging in "viewpoint discrimination," Fox News reported Thursday.

“The government can regulate discrimination in employment or against customers, but what the government cannot do is to punish someone for their words,” said ACLU senior attorney Adam Schwartz.

“When an alderman refuses to allow a business to open because its owner has expressed a viewpoint the government disagrees with, the government is practicing viewpoint discrimination,” he added.

Chicago Alderman Proco Joe Moreno said he intends to block the chain from opening its second Chicago location over president Dan Cathy's position on gay marriage. Chicago Mayor Rahm Emmanuel supports Moreno's position.

Schwartz explained to Fox that "if a government can exclude a business for being against same-sex marriage, it can also exclude a business for being in support of same-sex marriage."

“But we also support the First Amendment,” Schwartz said. “We don’t think the government should exclude Chick-fil-A because of the anti-LGBT message. We believe this is clear cut.”

But Moreno has already said he is not concerned with the First Amendment.

(Excerpt) Read more at examiner.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aclu; belongsinbloggers; chicago; chickfila; discrimination; homosexualagenda
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1 posted on 07/27/2012 11:40:30 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

Amazing how the death of morality and the death of freedom walk hand in hand.

Those that push acceptance of homosexuality are also the ones who will eventually seek to rob us of out basic freedoms.


2 posted on 07/27/2012 11:43:58 AM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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we don’t need no Chick-fil-a here
we just need our gun control

community organizer values in our city
hey! gangbangers! leave those kids alone!

Rahm is just another nut on the wall.


3 posted on 07/27/2012 11:44:11 AM PDT by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: nickcarraway
Something's not right with this guy:

Chicago Alderman Proco Joe Moreno

4 posted on 07/27/2012 11:48:59 AM PDT by jonrick46 (Countdown to 11-06-2012)
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But Moreno has already said he is not concerned with the First Amendment.

If the people of Chicago weren't bed wetting eunuchs, he'd be concerned about the second.

5 posted on 07/27/2012 11:49:29 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: nickcarraway

As for the Mayor, citing “Chicago’s Values”, let’s not pretend they are to be held in esteem.

This is the guy who announced they weren’t going to “arrest their way out” of the high murder rate.

In a city that already has some of the most restrictive gun control laws on the books, how is not arresting the murderers going to help?


6 posted on 07/27/2012 11:51:26 AM PDT by G Larry (I'm under no obligation to be a passive victim!)
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To: PetroniusMaximus
"Those that push acceptance of homosexuality are also the ones who will eventually seek to rob us of out basic freedoms."

You have nailed it! Our Constitution was based upon Natural Law. Through Same Sex Marriage, they are throwing out the concept of Natural Law. Natural Law says 'One Man One Woman.'

7 posted on 07/27/2012 11:52:54 AM PDT by jonrick46 (Countdown to 11-06-2012)
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To: nickcarraway; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne; Gilbo_3; NFHale; Impy; ...
RE :“The government can regulate discrimination in employment or against customers, but what the government cannot do is to punish someone for their words,” said ACLU senior attorney Adam Schwartz

That is the whole idea of the 1st Amendment, the gubmnt not punishing us for our words,
But libs claim ala Citizens’ United whining that businesses are not people so they have no speech rights. Not that libs hold others to the same rules as they do themselves anyway.

8 posted on 07/27/2012 11:55:31 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Romney is still a liberal. Just watch him. (Obama-ney Care ))
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"...refuses to allow a business to open because its owner has expressed a viewpoint the government disagrees with, the government is practicing viewpoint discrimination,”

No it's not!!!!.... it's called.....

TYRANNY


9 posted on 07/27/2012 11:57:56 AM PDT by LibFreeUSA
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Many anti-discrimination statutes include language similar to, " does not discriminate against or deny services to anyone on the basis of race, color, creed, . ."

I'm curious if Chick-a-fil's pro-marriage view would fall under 'creed'.

10 posted on 07/27/2012 12:11:42 PM PDT by aimhigh
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To: nickcarraway

There are laws, and there are unwritten rules.

Thgis man and the Mayor of Boston both have big mouths that they let run off.

Of course they cannot stop a business because of the views of it’s CEO. Not legally. There are other ways. They can make the inspections hard, they can make all kinds of trouble for a company through Fire inspections, building codes, sign codes, they can make their parking lots almost unable to get into, restrictions on parking. There are a thousand ways to attack Chick Fil A during and after construction, and these azzwipes are the type that will do it.

Looking at the picture #4 posted ,that guy is a fag. No wonder he is upset.


11 posted on 07/27/2012 12:16:47 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: sickoflibs

Doublethink, a word coined by George Orwell in the novel Nineteen Eighty-Four, describes the act of simultaneously accepting two mutually contradictory beliefs as correct, often in distinct social contexts.[1] It is related to, but distinct from, hypocrisy and neutrality. Its opposite is cognitive dissonance, where the two beliefs cause conflict in one’s mind. Doublethink is an integral concept of George Orwell’s dystopian novel Nineteen Eighty-Four. The word doublethink is part of Newspeak.


12 posted on 07/27/2012 12:18:01 PM PDT by cpdiii (Deckhand, Roughneck, Mud Man, Geologist, Pilot, Pharmacist. THE CONSTITUTION IS WORTH DYING FOR!)
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To: nickcarraway

Rahm won’t block any new Chick-Fil-As.

He’ll just make sure that they all fail every health inspection from now until Judgement Day (or until the Cubs win a World Series....whichever comes first)


13 posted on 07/27/2012 12:19:26 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: nickcarraway

I just had lunch at Chick-fil-a.


14 posted on 07/27/2012 12:40:17 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam

The deportation trucks should be around shortly to escort you out of the country for something so vile...


15 posted on 07/27/2012 12:46:11 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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"... is practicing viewpoint discrimination"

This is just all sorts of rich irony coming from the ACLU, imo.

16 posted on 07/27/2012 12:53:38 PM PDT by the anti-liberal
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To: G Larry

They just can’t catch most of these murderers, with no-snitch being de rigueur.


17 posted on 07/27/2012 12:59:37 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (let me ABOs run loose, lew (or is that lou?))
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To: Venturer

Having blown their cover brazenly and publicly like this, the red tape runaround will be frowned upon in court after court. I wonder if luggbutts have made the both offers they could not refuse. And now that it’s bringing public opprobrium down on Hizzoners’ own heads, the luggbutts may be more subtle about this in the future. Still it’s rich how they tipped their hand. That won’t be lived down for a long time if ever. And it all looks bad for Democrats. (Mitt, you’d be smart to just keep your gay lovin’ mouth shut and let the Democrats self destruct here.)


18 posted on 07/27/2012 1:04:18 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (let me ABOs run loose, lew (or is that lou?))
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To: PetroniusMaximus
Amazing how the death of morality and the death of freedom walk hand in hand. Those that push acceptance of homosexuality are also the ones who will eventually seek to rob us of out basic freedoms.

We have reason to worry these same types that would deny us our basic freedoms might also be willing to kill us. It's happened before ... it's the same type - the kind that force their ideas on everyone else. I hate liberal elites. I hate the New York Times.

19 posted on 07/27/2012 1:50:22 PM PDT by GOPJ (Political correctness is simply George Orwell's Newspeak by a non-threatening name. FR- Bernard Marx)
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To: aimhigh
Many anti-discrimination statutes include language similar to, " does not discriminate against or deny services to anyone on the basis of race, color, creed, . ."

Liberal elites don't mind discrimination when it's against the people THEY don't like... like traditional American Christians. They're the haters.

You're right - if rights mattered more than PC 'in' stuff - creed would be covered... and they should not discriminate against us based on our beliefs.

20 posted on 07/27/2012 2:03:52 PM PDT by GOPJ (Political correctness is simply George Orwell's Newspeak by a non-threatening name. FR- Bernard Marx)
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