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Kerry Kennedy tested positive for Ambien on day of crash, sources say
Newsday ^ | July 25, 2012 | Timothy O'Connor

Posted on 07/25/2012 12:32:46 PM PDT by Zakeet

Kerry Kennedy had the powerful sleeping aid Ambien in her system the day she was found slumped over the steering wheel of her SUV on a Westchester road, sources told Newsday Wednesday after reviewing results of the official blood test.

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KEYWORDS: ambien; drugs; drunk; kennedy
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To: Zakeet

now it is former commerce secretary bryson, tiger woods, and kerry kennedy all on ambien for sexual, sleepual, or whatever having car wrecks.


21 posted on 07/25/2012 1:25:16 PM PDT by biggredd1
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

Ambien does seem to be nasty stuff for some people. My wife was only able to sleep a couple of hours nightly so her doctor gave her Ambien to try. It didn’t help her sleeplessness but just one pill made her so dizzy she needed help up the steps and didn’t dare drive for three days.

However, along the lines of the Kennedy situation, it was quite clear to both of us that she should not drive.


22 posted on 07/25/2012 1:46:55 PM PDT by JimSEA
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To: DeaconRed
Her uncle killed a girl and got completely away with it.

Maybe here on earth...but he's paying for it now...

23 posted on 07/25/2012 2:40:54 PM PDT by Zeppelin (Keep on FReepin' on...)
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

The only way to know for sure is to put a cheap pocket watch on the driveway behind your tire, like Jake Gittes used to do.


24 posted on 07/25/2012 2:42:19 PM PDT by Erasmus (Zwischen des Teufels und des tiefen, blauen Meers)
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To: Zakeet

She looks like she was made out of left over parts that didn’t quite match. Plus her one eye is off centered quite a bit.


25 posted on 07/25/2012 2:54:21 PM PDT by Leep (Enemy of the Statist)
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To: Erasmus

“The only way to know for sure is to put a cheap pocket watch on the driveway behind your tire, like Jake Gittes used to do.”

I was thinking about stringing a wire across the hallway, and firing it up with 60 volts, low amps. Might not be a good way to wake me up though!


26 posted on 07/25/2012 2:55:25 PM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra
I know someone who had it prescribed to them after major surgery (to help with the messed up sleep cycle). One time he got up in the middle of the night and sharpened knives. Next day there was blood all over his work bench. No memory of it at all.
I took it once, and made the mistake of not being in bed when I took it. All the walls started to warp in a queasy, seasick way. I had to get up in the middle of the night and was so disoriented that I could not figure out where the bedroom door was. Never again.
27 posted on 07/25/2012 3:50:28 PM PDT by Sisku Hanne (All you have to do is the next right thing.)
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To: Sisku Hanne

Another thing about it that ticks me off,,,, i would sleepwalk as a very little kid. Then I outgrew it by age 10. Ambien brought it back, and even though I haven’t taken it for five or six years, I still have episodes of somnambulism. Ambien triggered something that brought it back, and it pisses me off!


28 posted on 07/25/2012 4:23:18 PM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: Zakeet

Must run in the family. Remember when Patrick Kennedy ran into a barricade by the Capitol?


29 posted on 07/25/2012 4:52:45 PM PDT by Diggity
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30 posted on 07/25/2012 4:57:36 PM PDT by rlmorel ("The safest road to Hell is the gradual one." Screwtape (C.S. Lewis))
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To: JimSEA

It doesn’t affect everyone that way. I have needed Ambien to sleep for a few years due to a combination of things and while I do sometimes wake up groggy in the morning, it doesn’t take long for me to shake it off.

Granted, I try not to take it every night, and I only take a few milligrams. I had 10 mg pills for a long time, and would break them up into three pieces and just take one piece.

I had three health factors that combined to keep me from getting a good nights sleep (waking up 5-10 times in a five hour stretch) and taking a small dose of Ambien was enough to get me five hours of relatively uninterrupted sleep. It is a Godsend to me, and I cannot tell you how much it improved the quality of my life, just getting the five hours.

I have knocked down a few of the factors, and have been able to go a few months without it, and only wake up once an hour now without it, and that is manageable.

I have a feeling people who have issues with it fall into one of three categories: First, they take too much. The mentality of “Well, if ONE pill can make me sleep, TWO will do a better job, and THREE will really conk me out”. Secondly, they take it at a time of day they shouldn’t, or take it with alcohol or something else. Thirdly, they might just be one of those people it really does have a bad effect on, even at normal doses.

I suspect the Kennedys who are doing this are both category 1 and 2, as in “I REALLY want to get conked out, so I am going to take 30 mg and have a few highballs. NOBODY will interrupt my sleep tonight.”


31 posted on 07/25/2012 5:13:36 PM PDT by rlmorel ("The safest road to Hell is the gradual one." Screwtape (C.S. Lewis))
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To: rlmorel

She was caught leaving the scene after she drove off interstate 684 at 8:00 AM. What’s she doing taking Ambien in the morning?

I take it sometimes too but only in the evening. It works fine for me.


32 posted on 07/25/2012 5:37:29 PM PDT by JeanLM (Obama proves melanin is not enough)
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To: JeanLM

I don’t know.

Perhaps there is an abuse aspect to Ambien that I have never heard of...maybe people feel really different when they take it in large doses or take it and go through life, and it is something they like.

If that is the case, it kind of gives me the creeps. Who the hell wants to walk around like a zombie? If that is what you are into, why live life?

I have taken Ambien gone to bed and been paged and woken up a short time later, or taken a pill and never made into bed for another couple of hours, but the concept of taking in the morning? Blech.


33 posted on 07/25/2012 5:46:36 PM PDT by rlmorel ("The safest road to Hell is the gradual one." Screwtape (C.S. Lewis))
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To: rlmorel

My wife and I are older and likely more likely to have a strong reaction. The stress she had with her families’ illnesses resolved and normal sleep
patterns returned. I’m sure the vast majority of people have good results. However the impact on her of just one pill was frightening.


34 posted on 07/25/2012 6:32:26 PM PDT by JimSEA
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra
[I almost burnt down my house whilst somnambulating on Ambien. LEO friends tell me about pulling people over who were under the influence of that crap. They had no clue where they were, or what they were doing.]

Three years ago I was traveling alone between Florida and Tennessee. I stopped for the night at a motel in Georgia off I-95. At the time I had a prescription for Ambien. I took an Ambien and watched TV for a few minutes. I decided I might get a snack remembering there was a Taco Bell down the street. I got some tacos and drove back to the motel where I rammed a pillar outside the motel office. I backed up and rammed it again then suffered a fit of uncontrollable laughter. The next thing I remember was two local cops helping me out of my truck. They were baffled when they gave me a field breathalyzer and it registered zero. I had enough presence of mind to walk them over to my room and show them the bottle of Ambien. They were familiar with the drug and told me not to do any more driving that night. They could have put me in jail. I had to pay about $300 for damage to the pillar which was concrete and stucco. The motel owner and the cops were gracious enough not to make a report. I discontinued the Ambien which resulted in weeks of semi-sleep but eventually things got back to normal.

35 posted on 07/25/2012 9:47:16 PM PDT by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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To: rightly_dividing
I take Ambien at night to sleep, but it does nothing to me, not even a little drowsiness.
So why do you take it?
36 posted on 07/26/2012 4:52:32 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: oh8eleven

>I take Ambien at night to sleep, but it does nothing to me, not even a little drowsiness.
>So why do you take it?

I had a girlfriend who used ambien and gave me one once or twice when I was needing to get some sleep and it had no effect on me either as far as making me drowsy or anything but immediately when I closed my eyes for a few seconds I was drifting off. Possibly that is the reason this person takes ambien.


37 posted on 07/26/2012 1:56:35 PM PDT by bkepley
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To: bkepley
had no effect on me either as far as making me drowsy or anything but immediately when I closed my eyes for a few seconds I was drifting off.
I would consider drowsy and drifting off to be the same.
38 posted on 07/26/2012 4:35:55 PM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: oh8eleven

But you don’t understand. As long as you don’t try to go to sleep there’s no effect, at least that’s the way it was for me. The whole reason I am interested in these threads is I don’t understand why people are claiming that these pills are responsible for their behavior unless possibly they are taking handfulls and when you do that there is a different reaction. Also why are they taking these pills (if it really is these pills) when it’s not time to go to sleep?


39 posted on 07/27/2012 5:04:20 AM PDT by bkepley
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To: bkepley
My knife-sharpening friend was taking the dose prescribed by his doctor, and nothing else but the other medications prescribed for his condition (heart surgery).
The one I took was the lowest normally prescribed dose. It says right on the instructions to take it and go to bed with 10 min. I took it and was trying to finish a book chapter before I went to bed and time just got away from me. About 20-25 minutes after I took it, the walls started to move and my eyes were not focusing correctly. Nothing else was in my system that could have interacted with it.
Everyone's physiology is different, but there's no denying it's very addictive. You're not even supposed to stop taking it abruptly; you have to wean off by lowering the dosage so as to avoid withdrawal. There are lots of stories online from people who have had bouts of hallucinations and somnambulistic behaviorson Ambien. I wonder how many may take a second dose and not even know they did it?
40 posted on 07/27/2012 2:57:48 PM PDT by Sisku Hanne (All you have to do is the next right thing.)
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