BREAKING NEWS: UN Arms Trade Treaty – Full Proposed Document

International Association for the Protection of Civilian Arms Rights ^

[Neil E. Wright]

PREAMBLE             

The States Parties to this Treaty.

1. Guided by the purposes and principles of the Charter of the United Nations.
2. Recalling that the charter of the UN promotes the establishment and maintenance of international peace and security with the least diversion for armaments of the world’s human and economic resources;
3. Reaffirming the obligation of all State Parties to settle their international disputes by peaceful means in such a manner that international peace and security, and justice, are not endangered, in accordance with the Charter of the UN;
4. Underlining the need to prevent, combat and eradicate the illicit trade of conventional arms and to prevent their diversion to illegal and unauthorized end use, such as terrorism and organized crime;
5. Recognizing the legitimate political, security, economic and commercial rights and interests of States in the international trade of conventional arms;
6. Reaffirming the sovereign right and responsibility of any State to regulate and control transfers of conventional arms that take place exclusively within its territory pursuant to its own legal or constitutional systems;
7. Recognizing that development, human rights and peace and security, which are three pillars of the United Nations, are interlinked and mutually reinforcing.
8. Recalling the United Nations Disarmament Commission guidelines on international arms transfers adopted by the General Assembly;
9. Noting the contribution made by the 2001 UN Programme of Action to preventing combating and eradicating the illicit trade in small arms and light weapons in all its aspects, as well as the 2001 Protocol against the illicit manufacturing of and trafficking in Firearms, their parts and components and ammunition, supplementing the United Nations Convention against Transnational Organized Crime;
10. Recognizing the security, social, economic and humanitarian consequences of the illicit trade in and unregulated trade of conventional arms;
11. Recognizing the challenges faced by victims of armed conflict and their need for adequate care, rehabilitation and social and economic inclusion;

[cherokee1]

That’s just plain ignorant, unreal, and not even funny if you’re one of the repeat jokesters. Let me remind you of how it works. After WW II during our occupation of Germany our guys made the rounds of virtually all houses looking for weapons. Mama answers the door. GI asks if they have any weapons. Mama first says “oh no, not us.” GI says we want to look around, you know you were supposed to turn them in.? . If we find any we will arrest your husband and prosecute him. Suddenly Mama remembers a Luger that’s buring under the woodpile. Because she lied at first they get to keep NO WEAPONS. Normally they would have been allowed to keep one for home defense.

You wife/girlfriend/roomate will suddenly remember where your lost Glock is. Your case will be turned over to Eric Holder. If you aren’t prepared to meet attempts at confiscation locked and loaded then you are part of the problem.———We’ve seen this rodeo before. Try to remember how it comes out. Either hang onto the bull or get the horn.

[xzins]

So, if you send a bullet outside our borders is that technically an "export" by any of the definitions of the word export? ex·port   /v. ɪkˈspɔrt, -ˈspoʊrt, ˈɛkspɔrt, -spoʊrt; n., adj. ˈɛkspɔrt, -spoʊrt/ Show Spelled[v. ik-spawrt, -spohrt, ek-spawrt, -spohrt; n., adj. ek-spawrt, -spohrt] Show IPA verb (used with object) 1. to ship (commodities) to other countries or places for sale, exchange, etc. 2. to send or transmit (ideas, institutions, etc.) to another place, especially to another country. 3. Computers . to save (documents, data, etc.) in a format usable by another software program. So, where in that document are quantities listed? And where does it say that the simple definition of ship/send to another place is not a definition that a lawyer will not use. And where, after John Roberts' twisting the constitution into his own personal pretzel a few weeks back, is the section that says a judge or lawyer can't make this mean pretty much whatever they want? And, finally, do you trust our judges?

[Cletus.D.Yokel]

A freak boating accident on Lake Superior...

[dartuser]

The “inter alia” covers you ...

[Errant]

If Obama signs this treaty, he will be in violation of his oath to protect and defend Article II of the Constitutional Amendments. Which is, A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

IMPEACH HIS SORRY ASS!

[stuartcr]

Since this is a UN thing, I wouldn’t think it would be included.

[dartuser]

“Yes sir, my tacklebox with my brand new Rapala lures, two rods, a 300 foot spool of 20# spiderwire ... and my Glock ... all in the water ... I have GPS coordinates if you want them ... that would be 47.7N 87.5W”

[RC one]

That's always a fun statement to throw around here at FR and at other gun forums but I don't think they will be so easily deterred if/when it comes to that.

here's an excerpt from an article written in 1997 regarding the australian gun grab. if it doesn't make you sick to your GD stomach and just a little bit nervous about anything that would empower our government to establish a national gun registry...well it should.

First to be visited in the government's house-to-house gun collection were those people who had registered their weapons. Gun owners who registered their weapons. Gun owners who registered their weapons but did not comply with the new regulation are now faced with the fact that their name is flagged on government computers. They are liable to four years' imprisonment and a fine in the thousands of dollars, if they don't comply with the confiscation. Those with firearms licenses and those who did not hand in their known weapons are liable for search of their person and/or premises without warrant. Even organizing against the confiscation could be considered illegal under a provision against "subverting another to commit a criminal act." Long guns being confiscated include: .22 rimfire self-loading rifles; Military style self-loading rifles, non-military; Pump action shotguns; and Self-loading shotguns. A number of Australian publication have printed eyewitness accounts putting large numbers of foreign troops -- including U.S. forces in Australia. The U.S. troops are rumored to be "assisting" in the gun confiscation as part of "urban warfare training.

we know what Democrats are all about. We know what the UN is all about. Knowing this, we know enough to oppose this ATT.

[stuartcr]

I had the same thought.

[drbuzzard]

You need to read all the parts of the treaty. They work together. The documents always tend to be self referencing, so parts scattered all over will affect other parts.

Thus Article 2

4. Each State Party shall establish or update, as appropriate, and maintain a national control list that shall include the items that fall within Paragraph 1 above, as defined on a national basis, based on relevant UN instruments at a minimum. Each State Party shall publish its control list to the extent permitted by national law.

Article 6

3. Each State Party shall take all appropriate legislative and administrative measures necessary to implement the provisions of this Treaty and designate competent national authorities in order to have an effective, transparent and predictable national control system regulating the transfer of conventional arms;

4. Each State Party shall establish one or more national contact points to exchange information on matters related to the implementation of this Treaty. A State Party shall notify the Implementation Support Unit (See Article 13) of its national contact point(s) and keep the information updated.

Article 11

1. Each State Party shall maintain records in accordance with its national laws and regardless of the items referred to in Article 2, Paragraph A, with regards to conventional arms authorization or exports, and where feasible of those items transferred to their territory as the final destination, or that are authorized to transit or transship their territory, respectively.

2 Each State Party shall maintain records in accordance with its national laws and regardless of the items referred to in Article 2, Paragraph A, with regards to conventional arms authorization or exports, and where feasible of those items transferred to their territory as the final destination, or that are authorized to transit or transship their territory, respectively.

So basically any arm which is imported has to be tracked for 10 years (registered) and this tracking must be reported to the local UN bureaucracy.

[redgolum]

That is the problem.

What do you do when the courts don’t follow the law?

[Conscience of a Conservative]

The provisions you cite are export controls, and export control lists. The treaty (by my reading) does not require any regulation of domestic weapon ownership, nor does it require any sort of registry. A “control list” is not a registry, it’s basically a classification document.

[stuartcr]

I believe self defense falls under inter alia, also probably cultural and historical.

[dartuser]

If a crook can get a gun without the government knowing about it ... so can I. I would hate for it to come to that ... but if I had to have one, I could get one.

[green iguana]

The preamble means nothing - it’s just feel-good hoo-haw. The guts of the treaty is what matters, and no, I haven’t had a chance to read it yet.

[RC one]

best it not ever come to that. are you actually supporting ratification of this treaty btw? and, if so, why?

[xzins]

So, if you send a bullet outside our borders is that technically an "export" by any of the definitions of the word export?

ex·port   /v. ɪkˈspɔrt, -ˈspoʊrt, ˈɛkspɔrt, -spoʊrt;
n., adj. ˈɛkspɔrt, -spoʊrt/ Show Spelled[v. ik-spawrt, -spohrt, ek-spawrt, -spohrt; n., adj. ek-spawrt, -spohrt] Show IPA verb (used with object)

1. to ship (commodities) to other countries or places for sale, exchange, etc.

2. to send or transmit (ideas, institutions, etc.) to another place, especially to another country.

3. Computers . to save (documents, data, etc.) in a format usable by another software program.

So, where in that UN document are quantities listed?

And where does it say that the simple definition of ship/send to another place is a definition that a lawyer will never use.

And where, after John Roberts' twisting the constitution into his own personal pretzel a few weeks back, is the section that says a judge or lawyer can't make this mean pretty much whatever they want?

And, finally, do you trust our judges?

[Drill Thrawl]

There is nothing in this document protecting that basic individual right.

The UN does not believe in the individual's rights. They are more concerned about easing the "Collective Mind".

Actually they're just a bunch of corrupt, child raping, money grubbing whores but the first one sounds better.

[dartuser]

No ... almost anything the UN is involved with is idiotic leftist garbage.

I oppose it because its the UN, not because I think there is gun control in it.

[green iguana]

“the government has held for forty years that it will abide by the terms of a treaty UPON A SIGNATURE ALONE”

Kyoto was signed by Clinton. Unanimously defeated in the Senate, and never abided by. You need better sources.