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To: Conscience of a Conservative; dartuser; P-Marlowe; jazusamo
So, if you send a bullet outside our borders is that technically an "export" by any of the definitions of the word export?

ex·port   /v. ɪkˈspɔrt, -ˈspoʊrt, ˈɛkspɔrt, -spoʊrt;
n., adj. ˈɛkspɔrt, -spoʊrt/ Show Spelled[v. ik-spawrt, -spohrt, ek-spawrt, -spohrt; n., adj. ek-spawrt, -spohrt] Show IPA verb (used with object)

1. to ship (commodities) to other countries or places for sale, exchange, etc.

2. to send or transmit (ideas, institutions, etc.) to another place, especially to another country.

3. Computers . to save (documents, data, etc.) in a format usable by another software program.

So, where in that UN document are quantities listed?

And where does it say that the simple definition of ship/send to another place is a definition that a lawyer will never use.

And where, after John Roberts' twisting the constitution into his own personal pretzel a few weeks back, is the section that says a judge or lawyer can't make this mean pretty much whatever they want?

And, finally, do you trust our judges?

77 posted on 07/25/2012 1:14:49 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: Conscience of a Conservative; dartuser; P-Marlowe; jazusamo

See below — the NRA and its battery of lawyers says this treaty IS AWFUL and IS AN ATTACK on the right to keep and bear arms.

NRA Delivers Remarks at United Nations Concerning Proposed Arms Trade Treaty

Posted on July 14, 2011

National Rifle Association’s Executive Vice President Wayne LaPierre addressed the United Nations this afternoon. He told the U.N. to not interfere with the Second Amendment freedoms of Americans and pledged to continue the fight to preserve civilian ownership of firearms in the U.S. He said the NRA will oppose any U.N. provision that seeks to prohibit or regulate U.S. civilian firearm ownership. LaPierre said in his remarks, “The cornerstone of our freedom is the Second Amendment. Neither the United Nations, nor any other foreign influence, has the authority to meddle with the freedoms guaranteed by our Bill of Rights, endowed by our Creator, and due to all humankind.”

United Nations Arms Trade Treaty
Preparatory Committee - 3d Session
New York, July 11-15, 2011

Statement of the National Rifle Association of America

Mr. Chairman, thank you for this brief opportunity to address the committee. I am Wayne
LaPierre and for 20 years now, I have served as Executive Vice President of the National Rifle
Association of America.

The NRA was founded in 1871, and ever since has staunchly defended the rights of its 4 million
members, America’s 80 million law-abiding gun owners, and freedom-loving Americans
throughout our country. In 1996, the NRA was recognized as an NGO of the United Nations
and, ever since then, has defended the constitutional freedom of Americans in this arena. The
NRA is the largest and most active firearms rights organization in the world and, although some
members of this committee may not like what I have to say, I am proud to defend the tens of
millions of lawful people NRA represents.

This present effort for an Arms Trade Treaty, or ATT, is now in its fifth year. We have closely
monitored this process with increasing concern. We’ve reviewed the statements of the countries
participating in these meetings. We’ve listened to other NGOs and read their numerous
proposals and reports, as well as carefully examined the papers you have produced.
We’ve watched, and read ... listened and monitored. Now, we must speak out.

The Right to Keep and Bear Arms in defense of self, family and country is ultimately selfevident
and is part of the Bill of Rights to the United States Constitution. Reduced to its core, it
is about fundamental individual freedom, human worth, and self-destiny.

We reject the notion that American gun owners must accept any lesser amount of freedom in
order to be accepted among the international community. Our Founding Fathers long ago
rejected that notion and forged our great nation on the principle of freedom for the individual
citizen - not for the government.

Mr. Chairman, those working on this treaty have asked us to trust them ... but they’ve proven to
be unworthy of that trust.

We are told “Trust us; an ATT will not ban possession of any civilian firearms.” Yet, the
proposals and statements presented to date have argued exactly the opposite, and - perhaps most
importantly - proposals to ban civilian firearms ownership have not been rejected.

We are told “Trust us; an ATT will not interfere with state domestic regulation of firearms.”
Yet, there are constant calls for exactly such measures.

We are told “Trust us; an ATT will only affect the illegal trade in firearms.” But then we’re told
that in order to control the illegal trade, all states must control the legal firearms trade.

We are told, “Trust us; an ATT will not require registration of civilian firearms.” Yet, there are
numerous calls for record-keeping, and firearms tracking from production to eventual
destruction. That’s nothing more than gun registration by a different name.

We are told, “Trust us; an ATT will not create a new international bureaucracy.” Well, that’s
exactly what is now being proposed — with a tongue-in-cheek assurance that it will just be a
SMALL bureaucracy.

We are told, “Trust us; an ATT will not interfere with the lawful international commerce in
civilian firearms.” But a manufacturer of civilian shotguns would have to comply with the same
regulatory process as a manufacturer of military attack helicopters.

We are told, “Trust us; an ATT will not interfere with a hunter or sport shooter travelling
internationally with firearms.” However, he would have to get a so-called “transit permit”
merely to change airports for a connecting flight.

Mr. Chairman, our list of objections extends far beyond the proposals I just mentioned.
Unfortunately, my limited time today prevents me from providing greater detail on each of our
objections. I can assure you, however, that each is based on American law, as well as the
fundamental rights guaranteed by the United States Constitution.

It is regrettable that proposals affecting civilian firearms ownership are woven throughout the
proposed ATT. That being the case, however, there is only one solution to this problem: the
complete removal of civilian firearms from the scope of any ATT. I will repeat that point as it is
critical and not subject to negotiation - civilian firearms must not be part of any ATT. On this
there can be no compromise, as American gun owners will never surrender their Second
Amendment freedom.

It is also regrettable to find such intense focus on record-keeping, oversight, inspections,
supervision, tracking, tracing, surveillance, marking, documentation, verification, paper trails
and data banks, new global agencies and data centers. Nowhere do we find a thought about
respecting anyone’s right of self-defense, privacy, property, due process, or observing personal
freedoms of any kind.

Mr. Chairman, I’d be remiss i f I didn’t also discuss the politics of an ATT. For the United States
to be a party to an ATT, it must be ratified by a two-thirds vote of the U.S. Senate. Some do not
realize that under the U.S. Constitution, the ultimate treaty power is not the President’s power to
negotiate and sign treaties; it is the Senate’s power to approve them.

To that end, it’s important for the Preparatory Committee to understand that the proposed ATT is
already strongly opposed in the Senate - the very body that must approve it by a two-thirds
majority. There is a letter addressed to President Obama and Secretary of State Clinton that is
currently being circulated for the signatures of Senators who oppose the ATT. Once complete,
this letter will demonstrate that the proposed ATT will not pass the U.S. Senate.

So there is extremely strong resistance to the ATT in the United States, even before the treaty is
tabled. We are not aware of any precedent for this - rejecting a proposed treaty before it’s even
submitted for consideration - but it speaks to the level of opposition. The proposed ATT has
become more than just controversial, as the Internet is awash with articles and messages calling
for its rejection. And those messages are all based on the same objection - infringement on the
constitutional freedom of American gun owners.

The cornerstone of our freedom is the Second Amendment. Neither the United Nations, nor any
other foreign influence, has the authority to meddle with the freedoms guaranteed by our Bill of
Rights, endowed by our Creator, and due to all humankind.

Therefore, the NRA will fight with all of its strength to oppose any ATT that includes civilian
firearms within its scope.

Thank you.


82 posted on 07/25/2012 1:23:20 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory!)
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