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China'a DF-21D Missile Is A One-Shot Aircraft Carrier Killer
Gizmodo ^ | July 24, 2012 | Andrew Tarantola

Posted on 07/24/2012 9:30:33 PM PDT by James C. Bennett

Since the end of WWII, America's naval might has been undisputed and our aircraft carriers have been its crown jewels. However, the days of dominance could end with China's new DF-21D ballistic missile—the only device on Earth capable of sinking an aircraft carrier—four and a half acres of sovereign US territory—with one shot.

VIDEO: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pi0d-eFiGN4&feature=player_embedded

The DF-21D (Dong-Feng 21 variant D) is the world's first and only anti-ship ballistic missile (ASBM). It's a two stage, land-launched missile with a maximum estimated range of 2,700 to 3,000 km. Its single fuel-air explosive warhead packs 200 to 500 kilotons. It was developed by China Changfeng Mechanics and Electronics Technology Academy as part of the country's massive military modernization effort, an initiative focused primarily on developing overwhelming missile technologies for which there are no effective defenses. The Defense Department believes it entered active service around 2009.

While the Chinese obviously aren't saying much on the inner workings of the new missile system, military experts believe it will rely on China's Over the Horizon radar (OTH) to monitor a 3,000-km swath of the South China Sea, where China is now claiming dominion over. The OTH system bounces its radar signal off the ionosphere to see past the curvature of the earth. If the OTH detects a carrier battle fleet, the system instigates a set of Yaogan satellites to search the area and provide precise targeting data. Additionally, when the OTH detects an approaching fleet, the system will reportedly launch a swarm of micro-satellites into low orbit where they will help refine the targeting data further and transmit it back to the onshore command center. Meanwhile, UAVs will be launched to track the fleet. Once the missile has been launched and separated from its first stage, the warhead employs synthetic aperture radar to find the carrier. It receives real time telemetry data as it locks onto its target and initiates its terminal descent.

This capability could be used to effectively deny US carriers from intervening in, say, the Taiwan Strait. It could also be used as a very large stick in resolving local territorial disputes. Many members of the security community also worry that the FAE warheads could easily be replaced with nuclear ones. If that occurred, it would very lead to an arms race with Japan and India (neither of whom are particularly fond of the Communist PRC). Or, it could dissolve the US-Russian INF Treaty, which prevents the two countries from from deploying short and intermediate range land-based ballistic and cruise missiles. [Strategy Page - Wired - Dept of Defense - SinoDefense - Weapon and Technology - Wikipedia]


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aircraftcarrier; china; navair; navy; nuclear
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To: philman_36

Obviously, “Jane’s” refers to Fonda’s exercise video.


41 posted on 07/25/2012 3:00:56 AM PDT by Makana
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To: James C. Bennett

Sounds pretty far fetched to me. Based on my extensive experience of playing Harpoon on computer, the ONLY way I could take out a US carrier (as the Russians) was to launch absolutely EVERYTHING, and hope one of the nukes got through.

I doubt this system would be particularly effective.


42 posted on 07/25/2012 3:11:19 AM PDT by Figure11 (There's nothing an agnostic can't do if he doesn't know whether he believes in it or not.)
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To: moonshot925
An attack on one of our CVNs would provoke a nuclear response.

Just like our nuclear response to North Korea, North Vietnam and Al-Qaeda. Oh, wait ever mind.

43 posted on 07/25/2012 3:15:01 AM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Little Ray

I am not certain that Aegis can defeat a DF-21. Aegis could be effective against tactical ballistic missiles, but the DF-21 is a long range device that would overfly Aegis’ radar fence. Taiwan is installing long range surveillance radar, equivalent to PAVE PAWS, to keep an eye on China, which would almost certainly detect the launch of a DF21, if not effectively jammed.

What really, truly puzzles me is how they think you can get 200 kT from a FAE with a payload much less than one ton?

I also wonder about the OTH radar part. In time of hostilites, nothing would be easier to jam or spoof than an OTH radar. If they are going to track the carriers by satellite, they better pray for clear skies.


44 posted on 07/25/2012 3:53:14 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (The Democratic Party strongly supports full civil rights for necro-Americans!)
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To: central_va
Just like our nuclear response to North Korea, North Vietnam and Al-Qaeda. Oh, wait ever mind.

When did North Korea/Vietnam/Al-Qaeda attack one of our carriers?

45 posted on 07/25/2012 3:54:11 AM PDT by moonshot925
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To: Bobalu
"Any administration that did not counter-strike VERY powerfully after a carrier sinking would doom their party to at least 2 generations out of power."

I wouldn't want to take bets on an Obama Administration response. It would likely be whatever was the worst option for the US.

46 posted on 07/25/2012 3:54:55 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: James C. Bennett
"—the only device on Earth capable of sinking an aircraft carrier—....a two stage, land-launched missile with a maximum estimated range of 2,700 to 3,000 km. Its single fuel-air explosive warhead packs 200 to 500 kilotons."

Since a kiloton is 2 million pounds, this missile carries a half a billion pound warhead. It simply must land on the carrier, and sink it with its own weight.

47 posted on 07/25/2012 4:05:56 AM PDT by norwaypinesavage (Galileo: In science, the authority of a thousand is not worth the humble reasoning of one individual)
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To: topher

the laser defense is tried, tested and fully operational... I read an article several years ago, they mounted one of these lasers on an M1 chassis... mounted it where the turret was, it looked like a huge searchlight on a tank.. anyway, 25 miles away they lit off a 155mm howitzer.... this thing tracked the projectile and shot it down IN FLIGHT... not once but 3 times in a row..

remember when north korea lit off it’s new ballistic missile and it self destructed? They immediately lit off a bunch of smaller ones that mysteriously self destructed also?

My guess is that our aircraft mounted laser system shot them down...

the aircraft carrier is obsolete, but so is the ballistic missile....


48 posted on 07/25/2012 4:26:20 AM PDT by joe fonebone (I am the 15%)
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To: norwaypinesavage

500 kilotons is a larger yield than the W-88, our second largest thermonuclear warhead in the active US arsenal.


49 posted on 07/25/2012 4:58:07 AM PDT by Wildbill22
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

Current Aegis class ships with SM3s have anti-ballistic missile capabilities. I think the DF-21 would be a piece of cake.


50 posted on 07/25/2012 5:02:02 AM PDT by Little Ray (AGAINST Obama in the General.)
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To: James C. Bennett
Its single fuel-air explosive warhead packs 200 to 500 kilotons

BS! That's the yield range of thermonuclear weapons.

51 posted on 07/25/2012 5:02:25 AM PDT by 6ppc (It's torch and pitchfork time)
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To: Little Ray

Also, there are a lot of difficulties in gettng a fuel-air explosive to work properly. They are very sensitive to envirornmental variables. IOW’s you get a lot of fizzles.


52 posted on 07/25/2012 5:19:56 AM PDT by Tallguy (It's all 'Fun and Games' until somebody loses an eye!)
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To: joe fonebone
"Funding for the program was cut in 2010 and the program was canceled in December 2011"

Wiki Boeing YAL-1

53 posted on 07/25/2012 5:24:31 AM PDT by jpsb
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To: yank in the UK
If it was made in china by Chinese workers then it will be a POS, it will be defective and probably malfunction like the rest of the junk that they make.

Maybe. But the bigger problem is that the forces deploying such a weapon need to exercise and test fire the system at simulated targets -- a lot. That's the only way to take a theoretical capability and make it an operational weapons system that is taken seriously by your adversary. So unless the Chinese start live-fire exercises over the South China Sea demonstrating that they can 'hit' a simulated CVBG, this is all smoke.

54 posted on 07/25/2012 5:31:38 AM PDT by Tallguy (It's all 'Fun and Games' until somebody loses an eye!)
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To: Bobalu
“But then history is replete with examples of just such stupidity.”

All good points. Their economy will nothing left if they attack us. Logically that would be a deterrent; but as you said, human history has many examples of stupidity.

55 posted on 07/25/2012 5:32:35 AM PDT by HereInTheHeartland ("The writing is on the wall - Unions are screwed. reformist2 10:04 PM #27")
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To: Makana
Obviously, “Jane’s” refers to Fonda’s exercise video.
I could see a liberal saying that.
56 posted on 07/25/2012 6:03:04 AM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Little Ray

I think it would need to get a cue from another sensor. I doubt that it could autonomously acquire a DF21 post-boost phase.


57 posted on 07/25/2012 6:27:54 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (The Democratic Party strongly supports full civil rights for necro-Americans!)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

Maybe, but there are awful lot of sensors in a CBG.


58 posted on 07/25/2012 6:40:47 AM PDT by Little Ray (AGAINST Obama in the General.)
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To: philman_36
If you asked them what "Jane's" was they would probably lose their mind trying to come up with an answer.

I think you'd get a quick answer. It would have something to do with Jane Fonda.

59 posted on 07/25/2012 6:43:44 AM PDT by Leaning Right (Why am I carrying this lantern? you ask. I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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To: Leaning Right; Makana
It would have something to do with Jane Fonda.

You two are thinking alike.

60 posted on 07/25/2012 7:36:38 AM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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