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The Colorado Movie Massacre and Gun Control
Canada Free Press ^ | 7/21/2012 | J D Longstreet

Posted on 07/21/2012 10:43:02 AM PDT by IbJensen

The advocates of gun control were already out in force within hours of the deadly incident

At the risk of seeming insensitive to the deaths in the Colorado movie massacre, I am going to point out the obvious, which may make us flinch.

As horrible as the massacre in that movie theater was, it was only the latest incident of its kind and, believe it or not, will soon dim as even worse acts of man’s inhumanity to man continues.

Bodies are stacking up like cord wood around the world. and, frankly, that is nothing new. Since Cain and Able, man has sought the death of his fellowman. We seem to be hard-wired to take our brother’s life. (Told you it might make you flinch.)

It is within every man to take another’s life. The threshold for homicide may, indeed, be higher or lower for each person, but, it is most certainly present in all of

Decades ago America made a conscious decision to allow the mentally ill to reside among us rather than segregate them into isolated communities where they could be cared for, treated, and kept from situations that might trigger aggressive, even lethal responses from a mind unable to manage stimuli in the way the “normal” mind does.

We decided—as a society—that the mentally ill had civil rights and locking them away for their safety—and ours—might infringe upon or even violate those rights.

In doing so, we lit a slow fuse on a powder keg and then we turned our backs, refusing to acknowledge that at some future point, that keg was going to blow.

-snip

Our cities are filled with mentally ill homeless people aimlessly wandering the streets and alleys.

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Isn't the real issue here: how did this guy get into the theater through a side door? Apparently, there was no security and the guy was easily able to sneak into the theater or did an accomplish open the door for him. Security seems to me to be the issue here. Too bad firearms carried by registered holders were prevented by the management from taking their weapons into the theatre.

Ala 9/11 aftermath, where GWB was blamed for the catastrophe: this was planned in the oval office. it is time we remove this illegal fraud from our white house he needs to be arrested and it needs to be done now!

1 posted on 07/21/2012 10:43:11 AM PDT by IbJensen
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To: IbJensen
How come this death and mayhem never happens in Chicago?

They must be doing something right... /s

2 posted on 07/21/2012 10:47:46 AM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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>>Isn’t the real issue here: how did this guy get into the theater through a side door?<<

No, the mechanics of the event are meaningless.

The issue is that an individual, bent on causing havoc and death, can do so no matter what steps we, as a free society, take to prevent it.

Grabbing guns won’t work, cops at movie theaters won’t do it, strip searching everyone whenever they enter any public space won’t do it.

Oh, and early reports are he paid for a ticket then blocked (through tape or something), the side door open from the inside. Are you suggesting all exits need to have a separate security guard? Like I said, a determined nutjob can get his evil done no matter what.


3 posted on 07/21/2012 10:54:10 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (obozo could bring back literal slavery with chains and still he will get 85+% of the black vote)
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To: EGPWS
"How come this death and mayhem never happens in Chicago? They must be doing something right... /s"

Good point. I believe that more people were gunned down and/or injured/wounded in the last two months in Chicago than at the movie theater in CO.

4 posted on 07/21/2012 10:54:34 AM PDT by mosaicwolf (Strength and Honor)
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To: freedumb2003

Allow legally armed and qualified gun owners access to theatres armed!


5 posted on 07/21/2012 10:55:50 AM PDT by IbJensen (If you don't read the newspaper you are uninformed, if you do read the newspaper you are misinformed)
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>>Allow legally armed and qualified gun owners access to theatres armed!<<

Agreed. How many tragedies like this could have been averted had there been one armed citizen in the target group? Damn near all of them.


6 posted on 07/21/2012 10:58:26 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (obozo could bring back literal slavery with chains and still he will get 85+% of the black vote)
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To: IbJensen

Here’s my prediction...within twelve months...you have to get checked by some TSA-type folks as you enter some theaters (state-by-state law passage). TSA at the emergency exits and TSA at the entrance. Figure another dollar added to each ticket....to pay for a TSA-wannabe, who will protect you while you watch the movie.

At that point, drive-in theaters will make a comeback....because they exempt them, and because most folks have four weapons in the vehicle or the trunk.

We will all shake our heads over the reaction to this, and question why you need armed guards at theaters. Then some nut attacks folks at a mall, and you get the TSA mentality at malls.


7 posted on 07/21/2012 11:00:17 AM PDT by pepsionice
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I don’t know that security is the issue. When you go to a restaurant, do you expect security? Stores? Parks? We can make half the citizens security guards and somebody is still going to get shot in public. You have to make yourself your security guard. If a place doesn’t let you carry, assess the risk and go someplace else if you feel uncomfortable.


8 posted on 07/21/2012 11:01:43 AM PDT by Starstruck
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To: IbJensen

I have been wondering that too. All theaters have an outside door in case of fire, but they are lock from the outside to prevent people from sneaking in to the movie. You can only open them from the inside triggering an alarm. So did he have help? Was the alarm disabled?
Just curious


9 posted on 07/21/2012 11:02:03 AM PDT by slag (reelect nobody)
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To: mosaicwolf
It's an everyweekend occurance in Chicago

12 People Shot

10 posted on 07/21/2012 11:05:28 AM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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If that will be the case then say goodbye to going to a movie. Many people who would go will just opt out and not that have experience and will wait for the movie to hit pay per view or DVD or possible they will charge more for you to watch a first run film in the privacy of your home.
Once we go down that road then what, we will then have to go through security to the grocery store, etc., we will have to have our “papers” for everything that is in a public venue.
11 posted on 07/21/2012 11:07:12 AM PDT by Captain Peter Blood
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To: freedumb2003
"No, the mechanics of the event are meaningless. The issue is that an individual, bent on causing havoc and death, can do so no matter what steps we, as a free society, take to prevent it. Grabbing guns won’t work, cops at movie theaters won’t do it, strip searching everyone whenever they enter any public space won’t do it."

Bingo.

Searching everyone at airline terminals won't do it either.

The price of freedom is the occasional nut case doing some damage. We need to make sure we punish them sufficiently to deter (at least) them, and hopefully others.

12 posted on 07/21/2012 11:10:47 AM PDT by MV=PY (The Magic Question: Who's paying for it?)
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To: slag

Good point. I feel certain that the capable law enforcement officers have considered this and are just a hour or so away from cracking this case.

Why the hell they didn’t blow this nut away escapes me.


13 posted on 07/21/2012 11:12:23 AM PDT by IbJensen (If you don't read the newspaper you are uninformed, if you do read the newspaper you are misinformed)
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To: Captain Peter Blood

>>If that will be the case then say goodbye to going to a movie. Many people who would go will just opt out and not that have experience and will wait for the movie to hit pay per view or DVD <<

That is how I have been watching movies for years. The movie theater experience, with people on cell phones and/or talking during the film, kids kicking the back of seats, usurious prices for drinks and snacks — it just isn’t worth it.

Home is a lot more fun. And I have all the big-screen and big-sound stuff so it is close enough to the theater experience.


14 posted on 07/21/2012 11:30:41 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (obozo could bring back literal slavery with chains and still he will get 85+% of the black vote)
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Isn’t the real issue here: how did this guy get into the theater through a side door?

The wife and I were talking about this yesterday. I heard someone say yesterday that he kicked the door in. Those doors open outward. You don't kick those doors in. Since all of these showings were sold out, it would have seemed that someone would have checked those doors to make sure a "flash mob" didn't invade the joint. This question needs to be answered. IMHO. How did he get in? Someone had to open that door.

15 posted on 07/21/2012 11:36:03 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Who is Barack Hussein Obama?)
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To: IbJensen

A.) this wasn’t the act of a mentally ill homeless man afaik.
B.) this tragedy was not a result of not enough gun control, it was absolutely a result of too much gun control. the management of the theater needs to be held liable for their policy of depriving men and women of their right to defend themselves in this world gone mad as are the rest of the liberal gun grabbers who are dead set on turning us all into helpless victims like those poor folks in colorado.


16 posted on 07/21/2012 11:46:35 AM PDT by RC one (this space intentionally left blank)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Per the report on last night’s evening news. He purchased a ticket, entered the theater, left through an exit door (propped the door open though they haven’t said exactly how it was propped open) in theater 9,
went to his car which was parked right outside that theater, re-entered, threw the gas canister and then began firing.

From the reports available at this point, there is no indication that there was another person involved during the massacre.


17 posted on 07/21/2012 11:57:38 AM PDT by ebersole
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Thanks. I hadn’t heard that. The last I heard until I got tired of all the politician sob stories and switched over to the Dbacks game was that he had kicked the door in.


18 posted on 07/21/2012 12:02:21 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Who is Barack Hussein Obama?)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

>>? Someone had to open that door.<<

he did. From the inside.


19 posted on 07/21/2012 12:14:58 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (obozo could bring back literal slavery with chains and still he will get 85+% of the black vote)
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To: freedumb2003

Yeah. I hadn’t heard that. Another FReeper just filled me in. I watched that stuff most of the day and all of the reports I heard said he kicked the door down. When I couldn’t take anymore of all of the political grandstanding and exploitation by the buffoons, I stopped following the coverage and moved on to the baseball game.


20 posted on 07/21/2012 12:18:34 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Who is Barack Hussein Obama?)
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