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Chicago police sergeant: "Tribal warfare" on the streets
CBS ^ | 7/11/2012

Posted on 07/12/2012 3:34:59 AM PDT by Altura Ct.

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To: Falcon4.0

Gee, I wonder if this is a new play by Obama and Holder for gun control.


21 posted on 07/12/2012 5:04:28 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (ABO 2012)
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To: Molon Labbie

” Those left are young, reckless, and often terrible shots”

“Those gang members are set to become the wandering gangs or foot soldiers should someone organize them,”

Before they wander to far into the outskirts they had better sharpen up their shooting skills because there is an army of skilled shooters that live there.


22 posted on 07/12/2012 5:10:15 AM PDT by depenzz (There are two ways to conquer and enslave a nation. One is by sword. The other is by debt. John Adam)
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To: Altura Ct.

Didn’t Chi-town earn that reputation when the City decided to allow the Mobs have the key to City —so long as they didn’t
embarrass the City fathers when they came to do business.
Seems I heard stories about such from the 20’s -30’s.


23 posted on 07/12/2012 5:11:15 AM PDT by StonyBurk (ring)
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To: Altura Ct.

—CBS News rode along with Little’s team as dusk fell on poor neighborhoods of vacant lots and high anxiety. —

This guy did the same thing, over ten years ago. Here’s his take:

From approximately ten years ago: Fred articles on race relations and potential future civil war:

http://www.fredoneverything.net/Blowup.shtml
http://www.fredoneverything.net/Stability.shtml
http://www.fredoneverything.net/Underclass.shtml
http://www.fredoneverything.net/Opportunity.shtml
http://www.fredoneverything.net/Assimilation.shtml

And from last year
http://www.fredoneverything.net/Diversity.shtml


24 posted on 07/12/2012 5:11:58 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: Lionheartusa1

Where at least Americans are granted the right to keep and bear arms.


25 posted on 07/12/2012 5:13:08 AM PDT by StonyBurk (ring)
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To: Altura Ct.

A simple solution to the problem. The article alludes to the gang leaders being in jail. Release them so they can make sure gang members just kill each other. Problem solved. Now was that so hard?


26 posted on 07/12/2012 5:23:14 AM PDT by prof.h.mandingo (Buck v. Bell (1927) An idea whose time has come (for extreme liberalism))
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To: Altura Ct.

“The gangs have lost their hierarchy, so to speak, and without a chain of command, there’s really nobody keeping things in check,” Little said. The leaders are mostly in prison — or dead.

Or in Washington DC.....


27 posted on 07/12/2012 5:28:28 AM PDT by rfreedom4u (I have a copy of the Constitution! And I'm not afraid to use it!)
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To: Altura Ct.
The police are also establishing a data base gleaned from interviews with the gang members themselves -- on their whereabouts, grudges or habits -- to anticipate trouble before it erupts.

My God! No wonder the "City" won't do anything truly effective.

Logistics this Byzantine are literally the "keys" to a bureaucratic empire!

28 posted on 07/12/2012 5:44:25 AM PDT by papertyger ("And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if..."))
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To: catfish1957

“I guess one positive would be the thug element could elmiminate itself in a war of attrition.”

Beat me to it


29 posted on 07/12/2012 5:50:34 AM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: rfreedom4u

I never fully understood why someone in a ghetto who doesn’t like what they see and experience doesn’t just start walking until they get somewhere where they take a job of any kind and reestablish them selves in a less bizarre, less violent, less unstable environment. Leave evwerything and everyone and walk out. If they have kids, take them with them. Just walk....or run.


30 posted on 07/12/2012 5:51:10 AM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: kearnyirish2
Here in NJ the neighborhoods where this happens have nearly 100% welfare recipients; most people with the lowest-paying jobs can avoid living there.

The gangs exist by selling drugs. Who buys most of the drugs? People from outside the neighborhood who come in to score some coke or pills. Focus on the buyers, and the money dries up.

Of course, then you wind up arresting the kids of judges, politicians, business owners, and all sorts of heat comes down on the police.

31 posted on 07/12/2012 5:53:05 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (If I can't be persuasive, I at least hope to be fun.)
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To: SampleMan

One would think the tribes would run low on manpower after a while. Where do they keep coming from?


32 posted on 07/12/2012 5:54:35 AM PDT by AD from SpringBay (We deserve the government we allow.)
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To: Stosh
In most of the communities infected with gang problems, the number one concern among many of the residents (and almost all their political leaders) is abuses by law enforcement officers - those folks will complain about the mayhem caused by the gangs, but that worry is secondary to the indignation of many (not all) that their “kids” might get pushed around by the cops. All one has to see is the way relatives of these slime react when those thugs are busted to realize that’s true.

For each of the 100K "gang members", multiply by the average number of relatives, girl friends, and girlfriends relatives, and you start to realize that the gangs supply most of the neighborhood with pocket money. The entire neighborhood is guilty.

33 posted on 07/12/2012 5:57:16 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (If I can't be persuasive, I at least hope to be fun.)
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To: hal ogen

That requires effort and they have little of it. It’s easier just to smoke dope and wave a gun around. If you have kids, you are probably living in housing that is free or close to it. Where else are you going to get a deal like that?

It’s like the story of the man who lived in a house at the foot of a volcano. When the volcano erupted, the villagers ran to him and said “Flee, Run. You have to leave your house” to which he retorted “I can’t. I’m upside down on it”.


34 posted on 07/12/2012 5:57:54 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you really want to annoy someone, point out something obvious that they are trying hard to ignore)
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To: mazda77

” GRAN TORINO”

Another Clint masterpiece.


35 posted on 07/12/2012 6:06:41 AM PDT by moovova (Ladies & Gentlemen...Pandora has left the box.)
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To: AD from SpringBay
One would think the tribes would run low on manpower after a while. Where do they keep coming from?

As long as the government pays their women to keep squirting out babies, you will have an endless supply of gang banger boys.

If you're a boy, you need to be a gang banger to score with the girls. If you're a girl, you need a gang banger boyfriend to protect you from all the OTHER predators. Plus the gang bangers are the ones with the cash to show their girlfriends a good time.

Eliminate welfare, give ghetto girls NO CHOICE but to marry someone with a stable honest job, and the problem goes away within a generation.

Young guys do what gets them laid. If gang-banging gets them laid, they will gang-bang. If being a McDonalds manager gets them laid, they will manage McDonalds.

36 posted on 07/12/2012 6:10:00 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (If I can't be persuasive, I at least hope to be fun.)
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To: PapaBear3625

Eliminate welfare, give ghetto girls NO CHOICE but to marry someone with a stable honest job, and the problem goes away within a generation. “”

Welfare will never be ended since it was created to be a growing supply of voters to keep the demrats in power. In essence, it is a government funded breeding program of demrat voters. Idi obama was an organizer of these same community illiterates and he was rewarded with power for being able to read—something the illiterates were very impressed with. The rest of us realize, he isn’t that smart. He is simply smug.


37 posted on 07/12/2012 6:49:43 AM PDT by Neoliberalnot (Marxism works well only with the uneducated and the unarmed.)
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To: PapaBear3625
It's really pretty simple if you look at the big picture.  First the government created centralized housing to attract people with little ambition.  Next it provided all sorts of government services in those areas.  This created a zone that has enormous incoming cash flow from said government.  This cash fuels the drug trade.  If a person has to earn money to buy drugs they must have a job and be able to work.  If the cash comes regularly anyway, a drug addict can just take a hit and go to sleep.  This process goes on until they die.  This is the whole basis of the problem.

The way to solve is to increase the distance between people on welfare and their suppliers.  One good way would be to disperse recipients out into the vast areas well away from cities.  One viable model could be based on the military compound model.  It is amazing what a basic training model is capable of accomplishing.  It takes young people and makes them actually useful in as little as 12 weeks!  It would teach personal responsibility, reading, writing, job skills, nutrition etc.

38 posted on 07/12/2012 6:52:09 AM PDT by BillM (.)
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To: Williams

I have two lifelong conspiracy theories. One is that the Saudis fund the “environmental” movement to keep us from developing energy resources.

The other is that the gangs are protected because drug money is flowing to politicians in these cities.

Certainly the gang theory is based on a long standing tradition in America.


Great post. “The Glass Key” by Dashiell Hammett is a good fictional depiction of your last point.


39 posted on 07/12/2012 7:25:21 AM PDT by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: Altura Ct.

Hey Rahm, Nice job with your city...LMFAO!!!


40 posted on 07/12/2012 7:27:04 AM PDT by AZ.CONSERVATIVE.PATRIOT77
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