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Global Warming Punched Up Some 2011 Weather Extremes (Where's climate change?)
ScienceNOW ^ | 10 July 2012 | Richard A. Kerr

Posted on 07/11/2012 2:01:01 PM PDT by neverdem

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Extreme but not greatly so. An accounting of the rain that fell in the catchment basin (red box) of Thailand's Chao Phraya river last year (blues and purple are heavier rains) shows that huge losses from floods were likely the result of extensive building in the floodplain, not the amount of rain that fell.
Credit: ©2012: Google, Tele Atlas, Ches/Spot Image; U.S. Dept. of State Geographer

A first attempt to dissect climate and weather extremes only months after they happen is confirming more leisurely analyses of earlier heat waves, droughts, and flooding. Human-induced global warming is indeed increasing the chances that Texas will be hit with record heat and dryness or that the United Kingdom will have an unusually mild winter.

But it's not always that simple. The strengthening greenhouse had nothing to do with last year's disastrous flooding in Thailand, the new analyses find. They also show that extreme U.K. winter cold may be less likely than decades ago, but it can still happen.

The half-dozen peer-reviewed studies appear today as a package in the July issue of the Bulletin of the American Meteorological Society under the aegis of the U.S. National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration and the U.K. Met Office. Researchers used a variety of techniques to search for any link between the atmosphere's mounting greenhouse gases and extreme weather and climate around the world. Some methods involved climate modeling, while others drew on long climate records for the regions involved.

In 2011, Texas suffered the hottest and driest spring-to-summer growing season on record since 1895. Although La Niña's cooler-than-normal waters in the tropical Pacific helped intensify the Texas heat and drought, climate scientist David Rupp of Oregon State University, Corvallis, and his colleagues found that La Niña-related heat waves are now 20 times more likely now than they were 50 years ago, when global warming was just getting started.

Likewise, climate scientist Neil Massey of the University of Oxford in the United Kingdom and colleagues found that the U.K.'s unusual warmth in November 2011—it was the second warmest November since 1659—is now 62 times as likely to occur as it was 50 years ago, thanks to global warming. That link might seem hard to reconcile with the extreme U.K. cold of December 2010—the second coldest of the long record—but Massey and colleagues note that global warming doesn't rule out chilly extremes. Unusually cold winters will continue, they note; it's just that they will be less likely. Indeed, that cold December of 2010 is half as likely to occur now as it was in the 1960s.

But not every climate extreme has a link to global warming, climate scientist Geert Jan van Oldenborgh of the Royal Netherlands Meteorological Institute in De Bilt and his colleagues report. They looked at the disastrous flooding that struck the Chao Phraya river of Thailand last year. It turns out that the amount of water that fell and flowed down the river was not particularly unusual. In fact, climate models do not call for a significant increase in rain there now or in the future. Instead, the researchers conclude, the management of the reservoirs on the river and greatly increased building along the river must have been behind the record losses.

The backers of this first prompt analysis of extreme climate and weather events plan to make it an annual "attribution service" to sort out global warming's effects on high-profile events while they are still fresh in the minds of the public and decision makers. Not all researchers are sold on the idea, however. "I'm all in favor of the goal," says climate scientist Kevin Trenberth of the National Center for Atmospheric Research in Boulder, Colorado. "But this effort falls substantially short." If anything, the current estimates of global warming's effects are conservative, he says. The data sets used are often too short for the purpose, Trenberth says, and the models are too often seriously flawed. "This is going in the right direction," he says, but "it has a ways to go."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: agw; climatechange; globalwarming; globalwarminghoax
Wasn't Trenberth the guy who asked either Phil Jones or Mike Mann, in effect, where's the warming?
1 posted on 07/11/2012 2:01:08 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem

Thanks for the good post. I appreciate it when people out the Gorebbels Warming idiots for what they’re peddling.

Last week I was watching FoxNews, and it seemed like their weather person was adding in the ‘feels like’ temperature into her graphics, to make things seem even worse than they were.

Just tell me what the actual temperature is, and I’ll add in the humidity factor on my own if I really want to.


2 posted on 07/11/2012 2:08:28 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Remove all Democrats from the Republican party, and we won't have much Left, just a lot of Right.)
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To: neverdem
for several months we have been reading about increased activity on the surface of the sun and that it would have an effect on earth. Have any of the scientists been able to analyze the effects the sun has had on earth as a result?
3 posted on 07/11/2012 3:02:58 PM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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To: neverdem
for several months we have been reading about increased activity on the surface of the sun and that it would have an effect on earth. Have any of the scientists been able to analyze the effects the sun has had on earth as a result?
4 posted on 07/11/2012 3:04:01 PM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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To: neverdem
“Who controls the past, controls the future: who controls the present controls the past

- George Orwell – From “1984″

The socialist/communist agenda is control, via AGW, using media fiat.

They dare not open to debate for they will simply lose.

If the climate past can be changed, present weather can be extolled as corroboration of the corrupted climate past.

The ultimate in circular logic.

5 posted on 07/11/2012 3:11:54 PM PDT by Puckster
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To: neverdem
“Who controls the past, controls the future: who controls the present controls the past

- George Orwell – From “1984″

The socialist/communist agenda is control, via AGW, using media fiat.

They dare not open to debate for they will simply lose.

If the climate past can be changed, present weather can be extolled as corroboration of the corrupted climate past.

The ultimate in circular logic.

6 posted on 07/11/2012 3:13:57 PM PDT by Puckster
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To: neverdem
Likewise, climate scientist Neil Massey of the University of Oxford in the United Kingdom and colleagues found that the U.K.'s unusual warmth in November 2011—it was the second warmest November since 1659—is now 62 times as likely to occur as it was 50 years ago, thanks to global warming.

62 times as likely as it was in 1962. Was that number generated by a computer model or what? How would you prove that claim?

7 posted on 07/11/2012 3:19:47 PM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

I would say the data they are using is 100 times more likely to be bogus that it was 50 years ago. The scientists still putting forth the extreme climate garbage and trying to tie it into AGW are working on grant money supplied by socialist democrats with political motives. If there was anything to the AGW climate change hoax the IPCC would not have to work in secret. Destroy opposing views. Doctor data and lie about it. They cooked the books when the outcome didn’t agree with their agenda.


8 posted on 07/11/2012 4:16:25 PM PDT by spawn44 (moo)
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To: neverdem

It’s clear that the fans of Global Warming believe the weather never got hot (or cool) before in all the long history of Planet Earth.


9 posted on 07/11/2012 4:19:30 PM PDT by Jack Hammer
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