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As court fight looms over voter ID, those who have none fear losing voice
AAS ^ | 7.8.2012 | Tom Eaton

Posted on 07/09/2012 5:37:35 AM PDT by wolfcreek

EL CENIZO — Much of 83-year-old José Zuniga's time is spent in his wheelchair gazing across a gravel yard that's nestled among shoddily constructed cinder block houses and deteriorating trailers in this border town that has the distinction of being one of the poorest places in the United States.

He's homebound for the most part, but one of the few events that gets Zuniga out of the house is election day.

But now Zuniga's ability to cast a ballot is in jeopardy.

(Excerpt) Read more at statesman.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Texas
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To: wolfcreek

Read properly the headline has this right.
States that do not have a voter I.D. law should fear loosing their voice and identity to the fraud of the Democrats.


41 posted on 07/09/2012 6:36:47 AM PDT by Steamburg (The contents of your wallet is the only language Politicians understand.)
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To: wolfcreek

Notice that the article omitted a critical bit of information?

Though Mr. José Zuniga is registered to vote, is he a citizen? All they say about him is that he was a “former migrant worker”.

Importantly, the US border with Mexico has long been so porous that lots of Mexicans lived in Texas, some even commuting back and forth. Every morning for many years there would be a stream of many Mexican children crossing the border to be educated in Texas schools, then returning to their parents homes in Mexico at the end of the school day.

So unless Mr. José Zuniga can establish his identity as a US citizen through the use of other paperwork, enough to get a photo ID, he is likely to be and remain a citizen of Mexico, whether he is registered to vote in Texas or not.


42 posted on 07/09/2012 6:41:32 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: wolfcreek

Where are all his children? None of them is able to help him get an ID? Or is he an illegal who has been here for years and never bothered to get naturalized? In that case, he shouldn’t have been voting in the first place.


43 posted on 07/09/2012 6:46:06 AM PDT by txrefugee
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To: wolfcreek

If he is confined to a wheelchair, he is eligible for an absentee ballot. Surely he knows somebody who could translate the ballot into Spanish for him.
If he has some form of transportation to the polls, why can’t he utilize the same means to go get an ID?
What prevents these concerned Democrats from picking up a few of these victims in his own car and driving them to the BMV to obtain an ID? The party can afford to pay for the ID if the person being registered is really indigent.


44 posted on 07/09/2012 6:46:26 AM PDT by Wiser now (Socialism does not eliminate poverty, it guarantees it.)
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To: wolfcreek

Listening to KLBJ this morning and they reported 800,000 more people on the voter rolls than on the TX DPS driver records. That begs the question, how many on the voter rolls have died and the rolls never updated?

They have Congressman McCall on today talking about the IRS paying the illegals billions of fraudulent dollars by claiming dependent children in other countries.


45 posted on 07/09/2012 6:52:20 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (It's time to take out the trash in DC.)
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To: wolfcreek

A LEGAL vote is nullified by every illegal vote.
A LEGAL vote is disenfranchised by every illegal vote.

Bring your ID to the voting booth to help fight disenfranchisement.


46 posted on 07/09/2012 6:59:29 AM PDT by kidd
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To: Wiser now
I agree that the "inability to obtain Voter ID" argument is a weak one. But, I'd like to answer some of the comments that have appeared in this thread with reasonable guesses:
47 posted on 07/09/2012 7:12:26 AM PDT by asinclair (Lemonade is a fine example of how to live.)
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To: wbill
I'm not sure if my grandmother-in-law, who is about to be 102, has an ID.

KLBJ was talking about several people who were born on Jan 1st of both 1900 and 1901. Two of them were born on Jan 1, 1900 with the last name of Cruz and lived at the same address. I would bet my next paycheck and retirement check for July that they don't exist, other than their names on tombstones.

48 posted on 07/09/2012 7:15:56 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (It's time to take out the trash in DC.)
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To: wolfcreek

The left is pushing the so what meme. “so what if a few illegals vote”.

They ignore the equal protection clause of having legal voters haing their votes essentially DENIED because of illegal voting.


49 posted on 07/09/2012 7:23:36 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
Every morning for many years there would be a stream of many Mexican children crossing the border to be educated in Texas schools, then returning to their parents homes in Mexico at the end of the school day.

This is STILL happening, at least here in New Mexico- did Texas stop it? In my area the only change is that now the school bus from the U.S. is not allowed to cross the border into the little town ACROSS the boundary IN MEXICO to pick up students at their door to bus them back to U.S. for school. Yes, until recently the school buses went across and picked up students in Mexico...amazing, but true.

Citizens that did not agree with students from Mexico going to school here tried to stop it, but were told most of the students crossing from Mexico are U.S. citizens so they should be allowed to attend school here. They are U.S. citizens only because their mother crossed the border to have them in a U.S. hospital for citizenship- though they have no ties to U.S. the babies can get on the gravy train starting with being educated here.

50 posted on 07/09/2012 7:29:42 AM PDT by Tammy8 (~Secure the border and deport all illegals- do it now! ~ Support our Troops!~)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

And yet, photo ID is required to go to one of Michelle Obama’s book signings or attend the Democrat National Convention.
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Or vote in a union election.

Virginia recently started issuing a Veterans ID and you need a PICTURE ID to be able to get the Vets ID...I ended up showing them 2 - my Virginia DL and my VA card...

Also, I was in Walmart checking out with a 12 pack of O’Douls (non alcohol for you people in Rio Linda)and couldn’t believe my ears when the clerk (late 20ish W Dude) asked for my ID..

I told him he must be working for tips as I am 72 and besides O’Douls is a non alcoholic beverage... he apologized and I guess it kind of made my day.


51 posted on 07/09/2012 7:35:15 AM PDT by xrmusn (6/98 "It is virtually impossible to clean the pond as long as the pigs are crapping in it")
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To: wolfcreek

My question is: What does former migrant mean? Does that mean he is now a citizen? That would be the only way he could vote anyway. To become a citizen, do you not get paperwork? Identification? Is this not required.

Heck, I just got a call from my son who went to NC for his job starting today and he informs me that he needs his Birth Certificate and Social Security card to fill out his I9 form. WTH

I should have asked him if I could upload it to the internet and that would be sufficient? I doubt his company would approve. I guess you have to run for the Presidency to be allowed to do such a thing! BAH


52 posted on 07/09/2012 7:47:10 AM PDT by jcsjcm (This country was built on exceptionalism and individualism. In God we Trust - Laus Deo)
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To: wolfcreek
Many states issue free photo IDs to seniors who are no longer able to drive. My Dad had one when he was in his 90s. Why don't these groups pushing for "voting rights" get poor old Jose down to the local court house and get him a photo ID?

Even in Shannon, Todd and Ziebach counties in South Dakota, the three poorest counties in the country I would bet that most of the residents have photo IDs as they are members of Indian tribes and need them to get tribal benefits. The argument that the poor will be disenfranchised if photo IDs are required to vote rings hollow as a photo ID is required in most states to get welfare benefits like food stamps.

53 posted on 07/09/2012 7:59:42 AM PDT by The Great RJ
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To: asinclair

Even if someone else has power of attorney to take care of benefits- at some point either he or the person with his POA had to produce required identification.

If this person never had ID it can still be obtained unless there are reasons why he doesn’t qualify. My mother had to start from scratch when she was in her 50s and discovered a birth certificate had never even been filed for her, she didn’t drive and had never needed ID as in those days you didn’t need to produce ID every time you turned around. It only took my mother a few weeks to get all her stuff in order so she could get a driver’s license when my dad became totally disabled. That was in the 1970s so I am sure it is possible to do now as well.


54 posted on 07/09/2012 8:01:46 AM PDT by Tammy8 (~Secure the border and deport all illegals- do it now! ~ Support our Troops!~)
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To: GeorgiaKusic
I think I understand. He can not get a photo ID as his picture can not be taken He is a vampire and as you know they have no reflection and can not be photographed. We demand equal rights for our Vampire-American neighbors!
57 posted on 07/09/2012 8:15:27 AM PDT by cotton
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To: wolfcreek

you would think the people he wants to vote for would make sure he had an id


58 posted on 07/09/2012 8:18:47 AM PDT by lifeisagame
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To: GeorgiaKusic
You don’t doubt the Rs’ principal motivation for the photo ID requirement was to suppress votes do you?

I will ask you the same thing I ask every libtard who makes that same claim --- please provide proof to back up that assertion.

59 posted on 07/09/2012 8:22:43 AM PDT by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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To: wolfcreek

Anyone? Where they have voter ID, how do they check those who request absentee ballots?


60 posted on 07/09/2012 8:25:49 AM PDT by morphing libertarian
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