Sunday Morning Talk Show Thread 8 July 2012

Various driveby media television networks ^ | 8 July 2012 | Various Self-Serving Politicians and Big Media Screaming Faces

[Alas Babylon!]

The Talk Shows

July 8th, 2012

Guests to be interviewed today on major television talk shows:

FOX NEWS SUNDAY (Fox Network): Reps. Debbie Wasserman Schultz, D-Fla., Tom Price, R-Ga., and Xavier Becerra, D-Calif.; Reince Priebus, Republican National Committee chairman.

MEET THE PRESS (NBC): Pre-empted by coverage of the Tour de France.

FACE THE NATION (CBS): Sens. John McCain, R-Ariz., and Dick Durbin, D-Ill.; former Gov. Haley Barbour, R-Miss.

THIS WEEK (ABC): Govs. Martin O'Malley, D-Md., and Bobby Jindal, R-La.

STATE OF THE UNION (CNN): Senate Republican leader Mitch McConnell of Kentucky; Robert Gibbs, adviser to President Barack Obama's re-election campaign.

[Lady Lucky]

I am going to guess that if the average poor person in this country had to find a job and replace all the government benefits with an actual paycheck, that poor person would probably have to make around $30-35,000 per year before taxes.

I've looked into that myself. $30k is probably way too high. If you factor in Social Security -- and I don't believe you should, seeing that it is mandatory -- the beneficiary moocher gets less in food stamps, cash assistance and medicaid. But let's say someone is getting no Social Security. Food stamps would be around $2k a year; heating assistance, maybe $1k; cash assistance for one person, nowhere even close to $10k. You would have to throw in some kids and their public schooling -- which I do consider a govt handout -- to get up around $30k.

Remember that aside from schooling, nearly all the welfare benefits are adjusted according to a person's income and assets.

However, if a person merely owns their home and one car, they can live quite comfortably on the backs of the taxpayers.

[Fishtalk]

I think Chris Wallace is ok, not the best, but ok.

I been reading rumors all week that Dick Gregory is OUT at Meet the Depressed.

Just reporting the rumors, as is my wont.

[MissMagnolia]

The fact you have to resort to euthanasia has never bothered the communists since why should killing old people bother a Party that runs on killing babies.

You have a way of getting right down to brass tacks.

[MNJohnnie]

If I understand you correctly you would rather scream bile at the people desperately trying to shrink the government for not being ideologically pure rather then do anything to fight the people massively expanding the same government

Same old problem around here. The ideological purity uber alles crowd would rather spend all their time sniping their own political allies in the back then EVER grow a pair and fight the real foes of their political agenda

[TomGuy]

Related topic: After you have been on disability for two years you are enrolled in Medicare.

Note also that those 84,000 had to have been non-working for a full year before they could even apply for disability. So, it is not that they lost a job on Friday and go on disability the following Monday. SS has supposedly streamlined the process, but it still takes months -- after that year of non-work -- medical evidence, and several hearings to qualify for disability.

[altura]

What you said is true.

The Republicans put up a pathetic slate. I liked one but he didn’t catch fire.

I actually think that in the end we ended up with the candidate with the best chance of beating Obama and maybe even the best candidate.

[rodguy911]

ROTFLMAO, bumper sticker time, just too good!!

[ROCKLOBSTER]

Damn!

I kept yelling at the TV for the Wallace-wannabe to make the RATagandist STHU so I could listen to the Tom Price.

[hillarynot]

I tape all the shows every Sunday, but usually zip through MTP. Gregory is a partisan hack and their panel is an absolute joke.

There are rumors Gregory is on thin ice. I guess their ratings are the lowest they’ve ever been. Not surprised.

Even though he was a liberal, Tim Russert did a pretty good job of being a journalist first.

[llandres]

What’s with our VP “likelies” being so dismal, anyway? If you take Jindal and Rubio out as ineligible (not that the establishment will really pay attention to that), look who’s getting discussed - ugh. Christie (too liberal & pro-Islam), Daniels, Pawlenty & Portman (collective yawn), Bush (’nuf said), not a Tea Partier or real conservative in the bunch.

The powers that be want more Dictator BHO.

Do our votes have a fighting chance?

[Gritty]

You paint a dim picture, bray.

Alas, it may be worse. The hapless establishment GOP seems to have lost the will to really fight as necessary and has a standard bearer who has now surrounded himself with "business as usual" advisers and looks more and more like John McCain II. The Demoncrats meanwhile are doubling down with ever more outright tyranny, Executive Orders, and louder lies.

Between now and the end of December, it will be a monumental struggle to save what is left of this country as a constitutional republic. If Obama and the Democrats aren't defeated in November, the hope of a peaceful and orderly political solution level dims quickly.

This is an uphill battle against the forces of deliberate and powerful evil in highest places, monumental public ignorance and sloth, widespread subversion of the voting process, an intimidating array of powerful totalitarian-loving propaganda organs (aka the mainstream media). Thrown into this devilish brew is a likely major war with Iran and a possible global economic collapse. This will be a strategic battle, perhaps our last viable attempt at crossing the Delaware. The other side holds most of the high cards except genuine truth, justice, and the American Way. Which will prevail? Only God knows.

As you often say, bray, "Pray for America"...

[altura]

Oh, and I agree with you about posting of pictures here.

I’ve done it but it’s way too much sugar for a dime as my sister-in-law used to say.

Never understood what the heck she was talking about but she was raised in sugar country.

On Facebook, for example, it is relatively easy to post a picture.

But plenty of people seem able to do it, so maybe it’s just me.

[rodguy911]

Jindall is sorta like Paul Ryan lite. He’s good but just not Ryan/Palin/Rubio,not in the same league but close.

[Fishtalk]

Yes.

You describe it perfectly.

Going on SS disa is not that easy. It’s six months before you collect, btw. And it is a wait of two years before being on Medicare.

We had to pay COBRA on husband’s company plan for two years and it weren’t cheap.

But no, SS disa is really not a walk in the park. I argue that my example of the bricklayer and other guy are the sorts who are going on SS disa.

The economy is effectively making this happen. Both of those folks I mentioned upthread, I do believe, would be working and productive.

But no jobs is no jobs and no money for six months is no money and no insurance for two years is no health insurance so after going through all that, why not apply for disability?

All I know is they got it so somebody approved their applications.

[bray]

Not sure why all the chest beating about Mitt, we know he is a Liberal but there are in reality two choices. One will allow the repeal of DeathCare and one will veto and we will not have an override majority. Those are the choices.

If there is another choice, who is it?

[rodguy911]

FOX brings out a CNN battleground poll saying people trust Obama on the economy more than Mitt? Yeah right.

If this is true,which I doubt, you gotta wonder just how stupid people are! Hopefully, its just a bad poll.

[MissMagnolia]

Actually, I’m watching Wimbledon this morning. Tight match so far!

[TomGuy]

TW

Mort Zuckerman is being very tough on Obama and the current economic situation.

George Will was also.

The other panelists are gnashing their teeth at some of Will’s and Zuckerman’s comments.

[Mycroft Holmes]

The site presupposes that you understand HTML 4 (except for the <form> bits) unless you are posting just text. I could make a pretty good case that everybody who writes should now understand HTML, but I won't. Instead I'll post my standard image rant:

<img src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/a3/Bobdobbs.png"><p>
<img src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/a3/Bobdobbs.png" width="30%">
<img src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/a3/Bobdobbs.png" width="15%">
<img src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/a3/Bobdobbs.png" width="7%">
<img src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/a3/Bobdobbs.png" width="4%">
<img src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/a3/Bobdobbs.png" width="2%">
<img src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/a3/Bobdobbs.png" width="1%"> .

gets you:

.

J. R. "Bob" Dobbs receding into infinity...

<img src="http://mumble.com/image.jpg"> substitute the actual source of the image for http://mumble.com/image.jpg This image must be out on a server on the web someplace, not on your machine. This is why people have flickr and picassa accounts. You can easily find out the URL of an existing picture on the web by right-mousing over it and selecting Open Image In New Tab. This will open a tab on your browser containing only that image. The URL of that tab is the one to use as your src="" value.

Some of the photo storage sites on the web (flickr) try to drive web traffic to their site to harvest advertising by providing a convenient pointer to their site that isn't a URL to a .jpg To get the proper URL try right mousing over the image and select Open Image in New Tab. This should get you the naked image itself, without all of the surrounding advertising. This is the URL you want to use.

Size: You can easily vary the size of a given image by specifying it. The native size of the J. R. "Bob" Dobbs picture above is 324x216 pixels. Typical screen pixels per inch numbers for normal displays are in the range of 75 to 150 so the original Dobbs'Head will likely appear on your screen somewhere between 2.88 to 1.44 inches wide.

The next row of Dobbs'Heads are scaled to the width of the enclosing container. We use the width because its value is mostly apparent on the screen. The value of the container's height is less so. The first Dobbs'Head is scaled to 30% of the width of the container. The next at about half that, and so forth... This produces a line of attractive Dobbs'Heads receding into infinity that occupies about half the width of your page, all without needing to know how wide your page is. The size of the images will change if you grab the edge of the page and make it wider or thinner. This is the reason you want to scale images (and anything else, really) by percentages rather than pixels.

In the past it was best to keep your scaling to powers of 2 to minimize scaling artifacts. Current smoothing algorithms and processor speeds make that pretty much unnecessary. Remember that scaling up will not introduce new detail into the existing picture.

Stationary images usually end with .jpg or some variation. Moving images on this forum are only possible using images which end in .gif The .gif format allows for short sequences of stationary images to be presented like a very tiny movie. Currently the forum does not appear to allow embedded video.

You can position an image relative to its surrounding elements by adding the attribute align="middle" to the tag. Recognized attribute values are top, bottom, middle, left and right.

<p><img src="http://jc-evans.com/wp-content/plugins/wp-o-matic/cache/61cb2_zQLMZ.gif" align="right" alt="Kittie doing its nails."></p> gets you:

This is some text to show how it flows around the image. This is before the image in the source HTML with a paragraph called out before the text. Isn't the expression of the cat's face just priceless? ♣

And this is text right after the image. I have found left and right attributes to be useful, the rest not so much. You really seem to have to have quite a bit of text for the behavior of the flow to come out. Dinking with the browser width seems to help illuminate the behavior of the flow. Perhaps a smaller picture in the x-axis? But it's sooo cute.

Does adding a paragraph move the text down below the image? Nope, sure doesn't. Think of the anchor as the upper left corner of the image and as far as HTML is concerned that corner goes right after the club following "priceless", but it is aligned right so it starts on the line with the club ♣ and hangs to the right.

In this forum, if you are posting images it is beneficial to place the image in a paragraph of its own and use a closing tag with <p> </p> as it helps the forum software properly place images. Preview is your friend, but you need to remember that that preview window is somewhat constricted in the x-dimension.

The alt="Kittie doing its nails." specifies the text that appears when you mouse over the image. Some folks use these descriptors by running them through vocal-synthesis software. The blind using computers find these descriptors quite helpful. It's important to remember that an image (as well as any other element) can be used as the clickable part of a hot-link.

[csmusaret]

I think Tim Russert is vastly over rated. People give him way more credit than he is due because they hesitate to speak ill of the dead. I remember vividly the way Potato Head’s voice and facial expressions changed depending on whether he was talking to a Dem or Republican. There was nothing impartial or unbiased about him.