Posted on 07/07/2012 7:25:43 AM PDT by Kevmo
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***What’s the problem? No one complained about no replies. I have to make a living, unlike guys like you with your thumb up your rear end.
Don’t assault kevmo with facts.
***Lay down all the facts you want, Texboy. You’ve never been good at it so far, I doubt you’ll be worth it now.
He will either hide
***Again I say, WTF? What’s the problem? I got a living to make. What is your freeping problem?
and remain unresponsive or he will start squawking something about seagulls...
***I dare you to find any seagull accusation coming from me in the last 3 months. Go on. I dare you. Now, what happens is crickets, because you CANNOT produce evidence. Of course, that doesn’t stop you from being a complete and total anti-LENR trolljerk.
The usual treatment. “My so-called friends did all this debunking somewhere, some time, somehow, so I get to display all kinds of ignorance of the facts on the ground.”
Why is it that the anti-LENR crowd is so ridiculous in their argumentation?
Because anyone who is sane appears ridiculous to you.
http://lenr-canr.org/index/menu/menu.php
Of course, you guys NEVer do that, because you cannot. But it doesnt stop you from throwing darts like a bunch of wussy chimps.
Of course, you never do anything but copy and paste links to personal websites, copy and paste mountains of crap from Ecat blogs, and appeal to quantity rather than quality.
This is the normal reaction to new developments.
The usual progression: First, denial and ridicule, then seeking their own research grants, then taking credit for discovering the new phenomenon...
Established academics frequently do not like their understanding of the order of the universe disrupted by earth-shaking developments.
Hey! It worked like a charm with that Anthropogenic Global Warming thingy until the politicians went ape...
Perhaps not, but there is one heck of a lot of NIMBY to overcome if that paradigm will change.
Everyone wants cheap electricity and gasoline, but no one wants to live near the power plant or the refinery (unless they work there).
Kindly add me to your ping list. If this works, it will be a game-changer.
Voodoo Science.
Typical response. Wrong-headed, but typical. I find it "very interesting" that NONE of you so-called professional scientists and "science managers" who denigrate LENR is ever actually willing to take an honest look at the data.
Look at Storms book. It is intended as a college-level text on the subject, and is THOROUGHLY referenced. If you're too tight to spend the hundred bucks or so at Amazon, go to your local library....there is this thing called "interlibrary loan" which will borrow it for you from another library (assuming they don't have it "on-shelf") for the cost of postage and maybe a slight handling fee (back in Louisiana, it was just postage....here in "the great Northwest" of Washington State, they want postage plus five bucks).
If you're too tight (and too prejudiced) to do even that, then there is a shorter/smaller version free on-line ("A Student's Guide to Cold Fusion"). Still very thoroughly documented/referenced.
Perhaps I should have included the previous sentence in the quote;
” If LENR works, the impact on the petroleum industry, power generation, and coal industry would be enormous. Even wind farms and other emerging alternative energy technologies could not compete economically with LENR.”
The implication is that freakin’ wind farms already “compete economically” with coal and oil/gas, which, of course, they do not! I’m hoping that LENR turns out to work, I just felt that that statement was rather odd.
It would be nice if LENR would work, but the probability of that, like immediate world peace, is low.
Its just a play on the usage of percentages and "probability" that generally adds no information but is often used to enhance or denigrate a possibility as the author sees fit, to which I object.
Take the statement: "Only a fraction of Catholics believe Jesus actually walked the Earth and is the son of God".
That fraction may be 99999999999.999999% but it is still a fraction. All you need to make that statement true is to find one baptized Catholic that objects to that view.
Similarly, the "probability" of any event occurring is somewhere between 0% and 100%.
By only stating that there is a "probability" of some occurrence is a useless waste of words except to the extent its used to advance one's agenda or to hamstring another's which I view as dishonest in that a positive or negative impression is presented based on no actual information.
Long ago I was interested in the reports of hot and cold fusion, I'm all for breakthroughs in LENR or any efficient source of energy creation especially as my lowest monthly home electric bills (in the spring and fall) are above $300 and let's not even discuss my 12mpg SUV expenses. ;-)
In the instant case, knowing you follow this issue closely, I hoped that you would have some actual information on Rossi's actual progress or lack thereof and answer my question while pointing out the "probability" issue. ;-)
1 oz. = 28 gm. or equal to appx. 1000 gal. of gasoline.
Look at Storms book. It is intended as a college-level text on the subject,
Do any colleges use it?
I didn't think so.
Oops! Dang pesky decimal point! Make that 99.999999999999999%.
Sorry, again. ;-)
especially as my lowest monthly home electric bills (in the spring and fall) are above $300 and let’s not even discuss my 12mpg SUV expenses. ;-)
***In the SF Bay area, PV solar panels pay for themselves at less than $200/month electric bills.
In the instant case, knowing you follow this issue closely, I hoped that you would have some actual information on Rossi’s actual progress or lack thereof and answer my question while pointing out the “probability” issue. ;-)
***I no longer post “Rossi says...” type of articles, not because I’m disinterested, but because they attract so many seagulls. The latest “Rossi says” item is that he has more than ten units operating at 600 degreesC for several weeks at a time. Anyone looking to start an electricity generation plant will know the significance of such a claim. But, of course, it’s a “Rossi says” thing, and he’s been known to bend the truth, so at best it’s a wait&see situation.
There are lots of peer-reviewed papers in all fields that are cr*p
***Just like the crap that continues to flow from the hot fusion boys, who feed at the public trough rather than private funding. If we had spent 5% of that wasted hot fusion cash on LENR, we’d have LENR-powered VTOL jet packs by now.
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