Damn. I may end up moving to Arizona yet...
Ping.
If its not between the States its none of the feds business...
Thought you guys might find this interesting.
Oh the horror of it all ... voters could override the Fed. Oh, the horror of it all. LET FREEDOM RING.
Have you seen this thread Jinx?
Interesting times coming possibly.
AZ is poised to be Ground Zero for for standing its ground against this lawless Regime.
” - - - effectively allowing voters to decide which federal laws they feel infringe on Arizona’s rights as a sovereign state.”
Newton said: “For every action there is an opposite and equal reaction.”
Duh, Traitor John Roberts decided that the SCOTUS has the right to tax EVERYBODY, sooooooooooooo, the good citizens of Arizona are going to interpret the Constitution the way that THEY want to.
What goes around comes around.
This has been tried before. Twice. I think we’ve learned just who has the bigger stick. Arizona is dependent on the Federal government anyway through block-grants. This is the 21st century. The feds don’t need to resort to anything as crude as using direct force. All they have to do is hold back funding until Arizona gives in- and give in they will.
I’m really liking the Republicans in Arizona and Wisconsin.
They are conservative and know how to play hardball.
Nullification Principle..
The actual basis for the Civil War...
For a “Civil War” you have to have 2 sides willing to fight each other. We have nothing to gain from fighting the left and the left have nothing to fight us with LoL.
I think we can convince both sides that both would be a lot happier if we did not live together under the same overbearing central government.
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Can NOT be done. Supremacy clause. Unconstitutional on it’s face. We want to make changes? let’s not do the fundamentally stupid. It is a waste of time.
Oh boy, this sounds like fun. I’m going to talk to some of my activist friends and legislators in Virginia.
The states accepted offers of candy from the feds with strings attached, now this habit is a hard thing to break
Great idea, good to know we still have patriots in America that are willing to bet it all.
Obama of course will throw a childish temper tantrum.
But ideally we should consider even if its just talk the concept of most or all red states opting out of Obamacare first off, and also opting out of the upcoming election.
The electors will not be used, instead it will be done by a popular vote. The field will be reset and so will the play clock.
Its first and ten...
Each state SHOULD be able to determine its own details of government...including the extent of Federal involvement it chooses.
NONE of us signed on for 8.2 trillion of debt DC has generated out of failure to provide oversight of out of control Federal agencies.
We could be seeing the return fire in what appears to be a looming, potential civil war. However, this raises some interesting questions. Let's assume that, in Nov., the voters throw zero out on his keester and the new administration is, shall we say, "friendlier" to the red states than zero has been. Additionally, let's assume that the AZ voters approve this initiative.
When the new administration is sworn in, will the AZ governor sign this bill? Right now, passions are high and people are ready to jump. But, if zero is thrown out, those passions could quickly die off and this bill might get "lost" on the governor's desk.
That's one "what-if" scenario. The other scenrio involves the passage of the initiative and zero manages to remain in the WH. How far are both sides actually willing to go in this "turf" war?
Potentially interesting times ahead. Invest in popcorn stock!
Fantastic! I may move back there.