Posted on 07/03/2012 8:28:08 AM PDT by EBH
Telly Hudgins has been stopped and frisked by the police too many times to count in the Brownsville, New York, public housing project where he lives. One occasion sticks in his memory. "I had my pajamas on and my slippers on and I'm emptying my garbage" at the trash chute. "They asked me for ID to prove I lived there. Who walks around in their pajamas with ID?" asked the black, 35-year-old counselor for the mentally handicapped. He says he complained about the search and was issued a summons for disorderly conduct.
Deborah Richardson, 60, a black postal worker, has delivered mail in east Brooklyn's Brownsville for 14 years. She takes a different view of the New York Police Department's contentious Stop, Question and Frisk policy. "I'd like to see more stops and frisks," she said, leaning out of her postal truck. "This is a dangerous neighborhood. I won't even go up in those monstrosities anymore," she said, gesturing toward one of the towering housing complexes where she once pushed a mail cart. After four years of what she says was harassment from residents, many waiting for welfare checks, she got a transfer to a parcel truck delivery route.
For nearly two months the NYPD's stop-and-frisk policy has drawn New York City into an emotional debate about race, policing and Fourth Amendment rights. Mayor Michael Bloomberg and Police Commissioner Ray Kelly have fiercely defended the program against an onslaught of criticism from judges, civil rights leaders and a vocal block of Democratic politicians. It has become a defining issue for next year's mayoral election.
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In general, I couldn't care less if a cop is killed, especially in a place like New York, where the citizens are almost completely disarmed, and the police are just fine with that. In fact, in such places, I care considerably less about the death of a cop than just about the death of just about any other citizen.
And no, I'm not fine with cops searching just anyone they get a hankering to. Remember it was you who said:
"You can give a DisCon summonse to a ham sandwich and it’ll hold up in court".
Too bad there are so many cops out there like you who think so little of abusing their authority that you'd make a comment like that here. You, and other cops like you are why so many citizens don't give a rats ass what happens to you. In general, I wouldn't take the time to urinate if you were on fire.
More broadly, and this only applies to you if you know in your heart that it does, “lawless” is the sort of dog-shooting, granny-beating, hassling-open-carriers behavior that gets documented all to often — and often with video — on these pages.
By the way, this is the last “so, ...” posting of yours that I will answer.
You are known.
You are obviously one of the 90% of the cops who give the other 10% a bad name. I think it's appalling there are cops who prowl the streets and think screwing innocent people for life with criminal misdemeanors (for failure to grovel) is a wonderful thing.
You make me want to puke. I'm with that guy who wouldn't piss on you to put out a fire.
After reading the totality of your comments, I'm forced to agree with the your first clause. If a few of you get knocked off for refusing to respect the citizens, there will be fewer of you with that chip on your shoulder. IMHO. My apologies to the families of JBTs everywhere.
“So, you’re fine with a cop being murdered but you’re not ok with cops stopping someone for 3 minutes if there is reasonable suspicion that the person has committed or is about to commit a crime. You sound like a total j/o, IMHO.
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Why shouldn’t we be fine with someone killing a cop? You seem to think our civil rights are optional and the Constitution is your toilet paper.
And why would I believe your ‘reasonable suspicion” when to you simply the act of breathing is reasonable suspicion.
You earned the opinion people have of you.
There should be mandatory 10 year felony for any "Govt. Official" breaking their "oath of Office"
“The cops there know the stops are illegal w/o out consent or reasonable suspicion. Few of the people they stop know it tho’. I’m curious to see how one would react when a very polite person they stopped turned out to be someone who did know.”
It amazes me the number of people that have no idea what their rights are. Even more amazing is the number of cops who either have no idea or else feel perfectly comfortable violating someones rights.
A terrible day for freedom in this country.
Nah...stop and frisk is unconstitutional...there’s no probable cause for these stops.
The cops do it nonetheless. They’re basically thugs themselves. If middle-class people were routinely stopped and searched every day like blacks in NYC are, there would be outrage.
Ed
A Terry stop says there has to be a threat of violence. There’s no threat of violence in the vast majority of these cases...there’s just some black guy walking down the street.
If you had to endure that nonsense everyday, you’d be pissed off about it, too.
Ed
Cops use Disorderly Conduct all the time to hassle people they don’t like.
I was circulating a petition to stop taxpayer-funded abortions in Oregon, and a friend of mine was doing the same. She was standing on a sidewalk with a sign advertising the petition. They told her to move off the sidewalk or they’d charge her with Disorderly Conduct, even though all she was doing was standing there with a sign.
Ed
Bloomie became a Republican only because there were less Pubbies running than Dems. He switched his party ID back to Independent a few years ago.
Ed
Unless the 'communal garbage shoot' is well known as a place to meet to buy/sell drugs, and it's the middle of the night, and the cops have it staked out.
...and therein lies the rub.
Yet... Eric Holder walks free.
Would it end up on an episode of COPS ?
Do you hang out at the garbage receptacle , in your pajamas, late at night?
Probably what Telly Hudgins said to the cops, although much more 'slang' was probably used.
“thefactor” hasn’t posted since he self-identified as a member of a large band of gleeful JBTs, handing out Disorderly Conducts like candy to everybody who pi$$es him off by refusing to grovel.
Or something like that. He didn’t deny it, so I applied the same level of scrutiny he (?) does on a daily basis.
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