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To: Jim from C-Town
You're not going to get an argument out of me on that. But the ball is now in our court and we can put ourselves on the road to recovery with a resounding GOP/Tea Party victory in November.

Contrary to what I have read in other threads, we CAN overturn the horrendous SCOTUS decision. Over time, provided we elect conservative presidents on a regular basis, we will eventually turn the SCOTUS back to a body that defends and upholds the Constitution. But it will take a generation or two of commitment on the part of conservatives to make it happen. It won't be enough to have one blowout election this year and then go back to sitting on our hands on the sidelines.

I know I am rubbing some the wrong way with this approach but we need to convert our anger towards the SCOTUS decision into positive energy for the upcoming campaign.

After a full day of digesting what has happened, I have determined that we need to focus our energies on getting conservatives elected to office at all levels of government.

56 posted on 06/29/2012 3:20:56 PM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: SamAdams76
After a full day of digesting what has happened, I have determined that we need to focus our energies on getting conservatives elected to office at all levels of government.

This is not news, we've known it for years. But the GOP has a tendency to throw a wrench into that idea, don't they? For me, this is the GOP's last chance. If they blow this, I will happily work to turn the Tea Party into a true political party that will do what they say and send the GOP to the scrap heap of history.

As for Roberts, he could have simply done the right thing and sided with Alito & Co. As far as I'm concerned, he's an elitist a$$hole undeserving of respect from true Americans. Stop defending this guy.

62 posted on 06/29/2012 3:35:21 PM PDT by Major Matt Mason ("Journalism is dead. All news is suspect." - Noamie)
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To: SamAdams76
I do not agree. We have had Conservative presidents who have bent over backwards to put who they believed to be true Conservatives LIKE ROBERTS on the bench. Try David Souter, John Paul Stevens, EARL WARREN!

It makes no difference who you vote for as long as the SCOTUS is allowed to legislate, which is exactly what Roberts did!

He should be Impeached and removed from the bench at loss of pension and benefits if not thrown into prison.

Enough is enough!

64 posted on 06/29/2012 3:38:32 PM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: SamAdams76
I think you're right on target. There's no rest for weary in this old world. It's always a struggle and it's always a frustrating mess. It's only by the unceasing effort of good people that it's as good as it is. This country was born in strife and struggle and it will be maintained the same way. The fact is that Roberts and SCOTUS are symptoms of structural problems going back a century or so, and if you really want to get cosmic about it, going back to creation. Then you have all of this world-historical stuff going on around us which America is not insulated from -- the epic ideological and moral struggle going on in the between socialism/statism and classical Western liberalism. If you take a step back and take all the big factors into account, I think you'd have to say we're doing pretty well.

If the Founders could see us today they would be circumspect. They would agree that in many ways we have failed to maintain their vision, but they would understand from firsthand experience just how freaking hard a project like this is, and in many ways they would agree that we in fact have maintained it. They would be quite proud of this great nation despite its faults. They wouldn't be ashamed to claim paternity. And for sure they wouldn't be on board with making excuses or shifting blame or heaven forbid just giving up. Those guys were doers.

102 posted on 06/29/2012 9:07:47 PM PDT by Yardstick
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To: SamAdams76
Over time, provided we elect conservative presidents on a regular basis, we will eventually turn the SCOTUS back to a body that defends and upholds the Constitution. But it will take a generation or two of commitment on the part of conservatives to make it happen.

I disagree. The system put in place by the Framers is now so corrupt and compromised, that there is no longer any possibility of correcting it through our time-honored civil means and practices. We also don't have "a generation or two" to reverse the accelerated collapse that's now occurring. We had our chance to incrementally move the country back to its traditional moorings, but we blew it. Those decades are now gone.

The American colonists chose to rebel against the mightiest government on the planet, rather than endure a tenth of the tyranny we're enduring now. With yesterday's ruling, our total enslavement to a despotic, totalitarian Socialism is assured. The powers that be will not be moved by the normal processes prescribed by our late Constitution.

Nothing short of complete defiance and rebellion will turn our country around now.

106 posted on 06/29/2012 10:08:51 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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