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Tesla Model S: First drive of the electric sedan that will change the world or die trying
autos.yahoo.com ^ | June 22, 2012 | Justin Hyde

Posted on 06/23/2012 4:39:20 PM PDT by grundle

Of all the new cars unveiled this year, none will be as hotly anticipated as the Model S from Tesla Motors, a luxury sedan doubling as a brash, billion-dollar bet that the era of the electric car has arrived. As the first journalist to test-drive one, I can report the Tesla Model S successfully challenges a century of assumptions about what a great car can be.

Unlike gas engines, electric cars generate their maximum power at start -- and no electric car has ever had as much power as the Model S, whose Performance edition is good for 417 hp. The zero-to-60 mph run ticks by in an impressive 4.4 seconds (5.9 seconds for the 362 hp edition)

the Model S can even do long drives — up to 285 miles in the edition launching today

The revelation of what Tesla has accomplished sunk in when I returned to a gas-powered vehicle. Other luxury cars will keep pace with the Tesla, but after driving the Model S, suddenly you notice the lag between accelerator and power, the exhaust noise, all the energy necessary to keep those parts hurtling forward. It makes a fossil fuel-powered car seem to be working so much harder than necessary. Which is the point.

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To: TheZMan
Problem is the loss sending that power to your house, which is no where near 100% efficient.

Electrical plants themselves are less than 50% efficient, too.

Question: Assuming it has a heater, what effect does, let's say, 20 degree weather have on mileage? How about zero degrees?

41 posted on 06/23/2012 6:38:17 PM PDT by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: Dartman

http://www.streetfire.net/video/worlds-quickest-electric-dragster_163899.htm


42 posted on 06/23/2012 6:38:41 PM PDT by B.O. Plenty (Elections have consequences....)
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To: dragnet2
Well, you have to get the thinking bit down first. As for me, if I ever plonk down ±$100K on an automobile, I’ll trust the internal-combustion motor long before the seven thousand lithium-ion AA batteries, especially in terms of pure engine reliability, never mind places to refuel (the claimed 45-minute recharge time for the Model S will turn out to be far longer, never mind 45 minutes being interminably long to wait). And I will probably be able to get it to out-accelerate the liberal-media-claimed numbers for the Tesla as well, never mind the existing fact that even the governed top speeds of the internal-combustion cars is already 20 mph higher than that of the Model S Signature Performance model.
43 posted on 06/23/2012 6:40:04 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
Steam-engined automobiles also produced maximum torque at start. Also, the time taken to refuel and rewater would have been far shorter than that to recharge the seven thousand AA batteries of the Model S . . .


44 posted on 06/23/2012 6:48:12 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: NavVet
Those drill rigs, tankers, refineries and trucks etc, all use energy to get the fuel to from the ground to your tank.

How does the coal or oil get to the electric plant? Mining/drilling, trucks, etc. We burn the fuel in our gas cars, the electric car people burn the fuel at the electric plant.

45 posted on 06/23/2012 6:52:29 PM PDT by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: grundle

The batteries were said to store 85 KWh, about the same as about 10 cups of gasoline - 2/3 of a gallon. The article didn’t mention what happens when you have to use up a few of those cups of gas to heat, or cool the car.


46 posted on 06/23/2012 6:52:29 PM PDT by norwaypinesavage (Galileo: In science, the authority of a thousand is not worth the humble reasoning of one individual)
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To: norwaypinesavage
Or...
power steering
power brakes
power brakes
electric window
electric seats
electric rear view outside mirrors
electric window defoggers
electric antennas
electric radio
electric door locks
electric navigation system
47 posted on 06/23/2012 7:01:06 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: refermech

Certainly, nothing special IMHO.


48 posted on 06/23/2012 7:04:24 PM PDT by Rudder
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To: grundle

I drove their concept racer in a parking lot at an investor conference. Scared the bleep out of me and I thought “That’s great but it can’t go far”.

Met Elon and he explained his long term vision with a sedan.

Great idea, very limited market and I ain’t buying.


49 posted on 06/23/2012 7:08:24 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live thnrough it anyway)
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To: grundle

I drove their concept racer in a parking lot at an investor conference. Scared the bleep out of me and I thought “That’s great but it can’t go far”.

Met Elon and he explained his long term vision with a sedan.

Great idea, very limited market and I ain’t buying.


50 posted on 06/23/2012 7:08:50 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live thnrough it anyway)
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To: grundle

“It makes a fossil fuel-powered car seem to be working so much harder than necessary.”

Electric cars are fossil fueled. And with much less efficiency if you view the big picture.


51 posted on 06/23/2012 7:14:10 PM PDT by Revel
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To: grundle
That POS "Sled" can't hold a candle in style, looks, or feel, to my 67 GOAT I picked up in Michigan when I came back from Nam; in fact, most "Junks" today (which nobodgy can tell one from the other) could not either.

Its the reason we used to refer to them (as we did ALL "real cars) back then as "Irons!"

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My 4 speed, Posi-Traction, 360 HP, 400 HO, could do 0-60 in about 6.8, not as fast as this model, but I bet mine sounded a lot better and not too sure I couldn't have bested it on the top end.

Would also like to see the stats on its top end as well as how much electric drain there is when one takes off that quickly. There necessarily must be a trade off.

52 posted on 06/23/2012 7:16:38 PM PDT by Conservative Vermont Vet
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To: grundle

What a load of, um, “Shaving Cream”! ;-)

Quick, drive a stake through it’s “Green” heart.

The author really fancies himself a wordsmith, I am repelled by his trying too hard to be clever, and his obvious bias.

“the thrust from the instant you mash the accelerator pushes back like Alec Baldwin at a paparazzi convention”. Lame, REALLY lame.

“the hints of revolution within the Model S begin with the door handles, which slide out of the body with a motorized purr when you touch them,”
Oh please, could you get any more pretentious? Look forward to these being a high-failure rate item that gets deleted from production pretty damn quick!

“The Model S range will still depend on how you drive it”. Yes, along with how much of that luggage space you use, and how new the batteries are in addition to weather or not you managed to get them fully charged.

This line made me want to punch the author in the nose, it’s far far from true!
“From behind the wheel of the Tesla Model S, you feel you’re driving the future, instead of burning increasingly limited gallons of the past.”
Not too up to date regards our oil situation, unless the Omombie regime finds a way to keep us from accessing it.
But the line will certainly play well with the eco-nut crowd, who ignore reality, such as that these cars will actually run mostly on coal!

I would not have one as a gift for any longer than it took to unload it on some fool.

20,000 sales a year? “at prices between $54,700 up to $105,400”
Resale value of ZERO once the batteries wear out, and the gimmick electronics begin to fail.

So, some one please let me know how I go about cashing in on betting against this company being a success.


53 posted on 06/23/2012 7:19:02 PM PDT by Loyal Sedition
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To: nvscanman

Electrics will not really be viable until fast-charge slow-discharge capacitors are perfected.

Do not hold your breath while waiting!


54 posted on 06/23/2012 7:23:08 PM PDT by Loyal Sedition
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To: Olog-hai
That's all fine, but the fact is, the 550 Mercedes can't touch the S from 0-60.

Some of you guys better face it, the battery technology is ever expanding, becoming more efficient, smaller, lighter, without filling the tank at 80 bucks a crack every few days, not to mention not having thousands of moving parts, all of which wear out.

If I could afford one, I'd buy it, just to blow off the Vets, Mercedes/BMWs from light to light, just for kicks. This thing is like driving a full scale slot car. Lightening fast and very quiet.

55 posted on 06/23/2012 7:28:35 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: grundle

A few facts won’t hurt.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tesla_Model_S


56 posted on 06/23/2012 7:31:05 PM PDT by truth_seeker
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To: Revel

Increasingly fossil fueled, since the eco-nuts are now taking down hydropower dams!


57 posted on 06/23/2012 7:36:42 PM PDT by Loyal Sedition
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To: dragnet2

How do you know what can’t touch what? All drivers are different, all tires are different, and all roads are different. Some days, that V8 Mercedes could probably blow the doors off the Tesla off the line depending on who is driving. Corvettes? They’re still a half-ton lighter than the Tesla; you’re not blowing those away, and a ZO6 will leave you in the dust. Battery technology has not gone anywhere significant in a century, and this latest government-subsidized example literally screams that to the world. Face it.


58 posted on 06/23/2012 7:44:31 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: truth_seeker

Facts out of Wikipedia, the encyclopedia any hack author can edit?


59 posted on 06/23/2012 7:45:43 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Conservative Vermont Vet
Very nice ride. That’s about 800 lbs lighter than the Tesla too; they were not that heavy at all even with big-block V8s in them. What size rear was yours?

Tesla’s top speed is in the 130-mph range. Might be a decent dragster depending on who is driving it, but it’ll be left in the dust by the vast majority of internal combustion cars in terms of top end.
60 posted on 06/23/2012 7:52:13 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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