“Fakegate” Climate Scientist Reinstated, Criminal Questions Unanswered
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Posted on 06/22/2012 4:14:16 PM PDT by Timber Rattler
The economist Thorstein Veblen once quipped that "invention is the mother of necessity." That was before the age of air-conditioning, but no technology better illustrates Veblen's point. Having developed efficient cooling, we've designed homes, businesses and transportation systems that are completely dependent on it, while the resulting greenhouse emissions create the need for even more air-conditioning.
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We must break this feedback loop, but what does one say to someone living in one of the tropical nations where much of the increase in cooling demand is expected? Surely not that Americans are addicted to air-conditioning and can’t give it up, but we expect Southeast Asians to get by without air-conditioners because they're used to the heat.
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“We must break this feedback loop, but what does one say to someone living in one of the tropical nations where much of the increase in cooling demand is expected?”
Uhhhh, according the all of the Global Warming literature the tropics will see almost no change in temperature. It is the higher latitudes that will see a big change in temperature. Such as a 2° change in winter temperature in the arctic might get it to a balmy -58°.
What about Houston?
Also, not all humans, or even Americans can afford to have a house 'built right' existing housing and trailers, and 80 year old houses are still all that most can afford, and those that can't afford that live in apartment buildings over, under, and abutted on two or three sides by each other, what do they do? And what about cities like Houston where humidity is a monster and trying to sleep in 95 degrees with 90% humidity is impossible, and that was true before A/C?
What the other poster may be complaining about with “fake” air is just that clean, air-conditioned air doesn’t have the smell of freshly-mown grass, of trees and fallen leaves and a coming rain; you can’t hear the birds and crickets. I’m grateful for cool when the temperatures are still in the high nineties late at night, but if I can avoid using the air-conditioners, I do. I don’t like feeling cut off from nature and trapped behind glass and steel. No offense. I’m sure you’re right that the outdoor air is full of mold and what-not.
And it makes me CRAZY that on a blissful 72-degree day, modern offices make it impossible to open the windows and enjoy the balmy air! We have to use the machinery and burn up electricity (and money). This is beyond stupid.
It gets pretty hot up in New England too. We just had three straight days over 90 degrees and it gets into the 80s on most days from mid-June to mid-September.
Interesting, it isn’t good for the desert but is made for the humid climates.
http://green.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/08/12/a-new-way-to-squeeze-humidity-out-of-the-air/
Newspaper presses take a lot of energy -and the paper newspapers are printed on ? All those trees and chemicals - all to be used and thrown away in ONE DAY? The New York Times needs to lead the way - just give it all up for ‘global warming’ alarmism...
Drink plenty of fluids and dehydration is not a problem. Fans also cause evaporative cooling. Put on a wet t-shirt and stand in front of a fan when it is 100 degrees with low humidity. You will be freezing.
Drink plenty of fluids and dehydration is not a problem. Fans also cause evaporative cooling. Put on a wet t-shirt and stand in front of a fan when it is 100 degrees with low humidity. You will be freezing.
I don't wear a big hat to do yard work; I don't do yard work.
I recently saw a lawn guy wearing the biggest damn western hat I've ever seen. The brim was wider than his shoulders. He sure had a spot of shade on him, though.
The South never really started to recover from the War Between the States until Willis Carrier in Florida started to air condition the world in the 1950s.”...
We call that 'mild and pleasant' weather down here ;-)
Last year we had a spell of triple digit heat for something like six weeks. And I worked in it nearly every day. It stays hot overnight in the summer here, too. Step outside at 3AM and it's 95 and humid.
Makes me tip my hat to the pioneers who settled Texas. Those were some tough people.
Here’s the weather forecast in my home town for the next week. Unusually cool right now, but winters aren’t much worse.
When the weather is like this, they call if Junuary.
http://www.weather.com/weather/tenday/Oak+Harbor+WA+98277:4:US
This guy is assuming a pretext. Text out of contex is a pretext. AND THE REAL PRETEXT IS IT IS HOTTER THAN HELL. I just turned my thermostat down to 66. The refrigerated air will be the last thing I turn off. I will haul water before the air condition goes off. I shit you not.....we put a window unit in our 12' x 12' chicken house. It is a very nice chicken house. I can afford it. The New York Times will not tell me I cannot cool what I want to cool. Under my energy plan I will 'necessarily stay cool'.
“Fakegate” Climate Scientist Reinstated, Criminal Questions Unanswered
Global Warming on Free Republic
Well, the left never has any qualms about holding the right to the standards they believe the right stands for, even though they (the left) don't live up to those themselves, so how about: "Everyone who buys into this claptrap has to live without AC." See, no hypocrisy!
When I used to do AC engineering, I had an architect that wanted me to put the condenser inside the conditioned space. Prolly flunked Thermo for Architects. [facepalm]
Uh, Mr. Resident? Since it's OUR STUFF, what those other guys say, if anything, isn't relevant to anything. Life is not a poll. (Though with you in orifice I DO feel like I'm getting the shaft.)
I always thought that, but I took it a step further. If it's something that you can measure in degrees (no pun intended), then they have to live with it AT DOUBLE STRENGTH for three years before asking us to take it at the regular level they propose, and even after the trial period, the law STAYS twice as restrictive on them as on those of us in the productive sector. Forever.
The population was much lower for a good while though
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