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EU court: Workers sick on leave can get extra time off
BBC News ^ | 21 June 2012 | Last updated at 11:33 ET

Posted on 06/21/2012 11:11:23 AM PDT by Olog-hai

Workers who fall sick during their annual leave are entitled to take corresponding paid leave at a later date, the EU's top court has ruled.

The European Court of Justice ruling is legally binding throughout the EU.

Thursday's ruling was prompted by a Spanish trade union case against a group of department stores.

"The right to paid annual leave cannot be interpreted restrictively," the court says. The UK does not have an opt-out in this area of EU labor law.

The court in Luxembourg said the EU Working Time Directive grants workers a right to at least four weeks' paid annual leave "even where such leave coincides with periods of sick leave".

The ECJ says "(T)he point at which the temporary incapacity arose is irrelevant. Consequently, a worker is entitled to take paid annual leave, which coincides with a period of sick leave, at a later point in time, irrespective of the point at which the incapacity for work arose." …

A EU source told the BBC that the ECJ ruling has full, immediate effect EU-wide, regardless of the type or size of employer.

Workers who believe their employer has infringed their right to paid annual leave can seek justice in their national courts.

Infringement cases against employers who violate the directive can also be brought by the European Commission or national governments.

Commenting on Thursday's ruling the Confederation of British Industry said that "as a result of earlier ECJ judgments, this change has already happened in the UK, bringing along headaches for employers". …

(Excerpt) Read more at bbc.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: europeanunion; eussr; sicktime; workersparadise

1 posted on 06/21/2012 11:11:31 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

These people are just delusional. It’s like there’s this big imaginary bottomless pot of money, and the highest manifestation of statesmanship is just to hand it out.

I’m going to miss Western Civilization.


2 posted on 06/21/2012 11:13:32 AM PDT by Maceman
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To: Olog-hai

Ahhh, isn’t that special.


3 posted on 06/21/2012 11:15:58 AM PDT by bgill
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To: Maceman

I just read your post aloud to a coworker and we got a big laugh.

(I, too, am going to miss Western Civilization.)


4 posted on 06/21/2012 11:18:55 AM PDT by utahagen
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To: Olog-hai

Cough, cough! Boss, I’m too sick to enjoy my vacation on the Riviera, so I’m going to have to convert a couple of vacation days into sick days.


5 posted on 06/21/2012 11:20:11 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (You only have three billion heartbeats in a lifetime.How many does the government claim as its own?)
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To: Olog-hai
My accrued leave is "comprehensive". Paid time off and sick leave combined. My wife accrues paid time off separately from sick leave. In her case, the right thing to do is to shift the time recording from "vacation" to "sick" if that is the correct situation. Of course, that shift should come with a bona fide note from the doctor. Paid time off is subject to being paid out on termination. Sick leave simply evaporates.
6 posted on 06/21/2012 11:21:34 AM PDT by Myrddin
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To: Olog-hai

Ha! Just what I needed is another reason to not be able to get ahold of my EU counterpart! It seems like there is always a “holiday” that keeps them out of the office.

I have to admit that I have a good one now, but in general getting ahold of them is very difficult...


7 posted on 06/21/2012 11:29:44 AM PDT by CSM (Keeper of the Dave Ramsey Ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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To: Maceman

Our company (and I’d suspect most of those in America) do not give separate sick leave days. You accumulate PTO by showing up for work regularly. If you get sick, you use PTO. If you run out of PTO, then you can apply for unpaid time off. This rarely happens as we are expected to bank PTO to use when needed.


8 posted on 06/21/2012 11:39:36 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: CSM

The word “holiday” is derived from “holy day”. I personally found “vacation” to be a more honest descriptor. I sure would like to know how they expect to stay in business if they remain out of the office for so long . . .


9 posted on 06/21/2012 11:46:27 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

If you know anyone who has ever tried to do business in these countries, the laws about how you have to handle your employees drive them absolutely batty. (Canada’s six weeks of Paternity Leave seem to be a particular sore spot with most of them).


10 posted on 06/21/2012 11:54:29 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Olog-hai

Calling in sick while you are on vacation? Boggles the mind. Unless you have to vacation with some in-laws, in which case I can understand it completely.


11 posted on 06/21/2012 11:54:58 AM PDT by USMCPOP (Father of LCpl. Karl Linn, KIA 1/26/2005 Al Haqlaniyah, Iraq)
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To: utahagen

[dirty little secret] the reason we aren’t living this nightmare is that 80% of our population has absolutely no idea what kind of paid vacation and leave benefits they have in these countries.

If they did they’d all go running to their Dummycrap Congressman demanding same, and we’d all be in the same boat before long.


12 posted on 06/21/2012 12:00:42 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Maceman

“These people are just delusional. It’s like there’s this big imaginary bottomless pot of money, and the highest manifestation of statesmanship is just to hand it out.”

And just how is this any different than the PE unions here in this country? This isn’t a European problem, it’s a worldwide problem. These bastards don’t care (or probably even realize) that the public coffers are empty. They just continue to want what they want irrespective of this fact!


13 posted on 06/21/2012 12:15:05 PM PDT by vette6387
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To: Olog-hai

My company here allows this.


14 posted on 06/21/2012 12:49:07 PM PDT by rawhide
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To: Myrddin
My accrued leave is "comprehensive". Paid time off and sick leave combined.

That was the way it was with my last employer. And I barely got to use any time that wasn't sick leave (too much work to be done).

If you get sick on the weekend or a holiday, can you claim sick time?

15 posted on 06/21/2012 1:19:17 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (The media ignored the 40th anniversary of Bill Ayers' Pentagon bombing but not Watergate. Ask Why.)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

You think Canada’s bad? My company has offices in Russia. We’ve had a “team member” who’s been on maternity leave FOR 4 YEARS. We have to hold her spot open just in case she decides to return.

It’s sickening.


16 posted on 06/21/2012 1:37:12 PM PDT by Personal Responsibility (Behind enemy lines in the city where it's illegal to buy a Big Gulp)
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To: a fool in paradise
Tough luck on the weekend. It's not a "regular" work day. Our holiday time is a special case of paid time off that can't be carried to the following year. I take the holiday on the designated day unless my customer has a pressing need for me to work to cover their needs. If that occurs, I can defer the holiday as long as I take it within the calendar year.

My comp leave was at 518 hours before I took my wedding anniversary vacation. It's down to 487 now. I accrue 3.69 hours per 40 hours worked.

17 posted on 06/21/2012 1:39:39 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: Olog-hai

Twenty six years ago, I received a phone call from my boss.
He was 3 or 4 days into his vacation and was calling in sick. I’d never heard of the practice before, but the company I worked for at the time allowed it and he got comp time.
None of the companies I’ve worked for since recognize the practice.


18 posted on 06/21/2012 1:49:46 PM PDT by BuffaloJack (End the racist, anti-capitalist Obama War On Freedom.)
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To: Olog-hai

Scary is that these same EU people also believe in Globalization, Regionalization, Free Trade, Bank Bailouts, and, of course, Socialism

And people on this side of the world still want to emulate the EU. Gosh, I think I will sleep in front of the local Greek restaurant tonite for practice


19 posted on 06/21/2012 4:30:20 PM PDT by SeminoleCounty (When I said "close the borders", I did not mean the bookstore chain)
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To: BuffaloJack

“He was 3 or 4 days into his vacation and was calling in sick. I’d never heard of the practice before, but the company I worked for at the time allowed it and he got comp time.
None of the companies I’ve worked for since recognize the practice.”

It would not bother me one bit if each company got to decide the policy, it’s when it’s mandated by law that it becomes a big problem. Europe is doomed.


20 posted on 06/22/2012 10:56:26 AM PDT by aquila48
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