Rubio’s Take on DREAM ‘by Fiat’

Senator Marco Rubio of Florida tells National Review Online that President Obama’s executive order on immigration is part of a “growing consensus” in American politics about the children of illegal immigrants, but he is troubled by the president’s lawmaking “by fiat.”

“There is a growing sentiment in America about these kids,” Rubio says. “If you were four years old when your parents brought you here illegally, and you have grown up here your whole life and don’t even speak Spanish, and you are your high school’s valedictorian, you have a lot to contribute to our future. It kind of feels weird to deport you.”

Rubio acknowledges that his position on illegal immigration will not please every member of his party. But he believes that he can still be an opponent of illegal immigration while working to help the children of illegal immigrants to avoid deportation. Immigration is “not a black and white issue,” he says. “It’s a complicated issue. Complicated issues require careful solutions. On one hand, we want to help these kids, but we also do not want to do anything to encourage illegal immigration.”

What wonderful language you use. But, it shows your level of immaturity and lack of education.

“(I fixed your typo for you).”

And I am fixing your stupidity for you...But wait. Ignorance is salvageable, but stupidly is forever.

“And every conservative who read it understood right away that the liberal media were trying to fabricate a story out of thin air.”

Who is every conservative who read it? That’s your story.

“dismayed to hear a conservative such as yourself repeating such lies.”

I didn’t repeat anything you moron. But then, you don’t know how to read. Ignorance vs. stupidity.

“Alas, you’re hiding atop a mango tree somewhere in Panama, so you won’t be telling that to a Cuban-American’s face anytime soon.”

Give me your address. I will send you some bananas. But then, you probably have an overload since the U.S. is now a banana republic thanks to Rubio and his group of Marxist.

By the way, we are just doing great in Panama in spite of the rest of world and the U.S.

“…so you won’t be telling that to a Cuban-American’s face anytime soon….”

I don’t have any Cuban friends. Most of them seem to be in Miami or other parts of the U.S., but not here. Undocumented folks are not allowed in Panama...Not like the U.S.

I’ve been to Havana in the past few years. Have you? It doesn’t sound like it.

Good luck with your lover boy.

P.S.

Cleanup your language.

You are so full of self-importance, if you fell into a pool of quick sand like we have here in Panama, I would not give you a helping hand.

Good grief. You are awful. No. You are crazy…not well in the head.

My solution; If you where brought to this nation as a minor by your parents entering illegally. Gather all documentation of your time here. High school diploma/transcripts, work history, college documents if any, recommendations ETC. Go to the country of origin of your father. Report to the US embassy, fill out necessary paper work, undergo background check, demonstrate knowledge of US history and read write and speak English at ninth grade level or better. Having satisfied those requirements be issued a green card and return to the States. Will be proscribed from ever sponsoring a family member for entry to the US.

No, you probably won’t meet many Cuban-Americans in Panama, being too busy bending over for the ChiComms who practically own the country nowadays. I’ve got to admit, Panama has been pretty good at switching over to Red China’s side now that the U.S. can’t do anything for it (since we already gave them independence by sending gunboats into the Caribbean and telling Colombia to stand down, built the canal that became its lifeblood, cured yellow fever for them (mostly thanks to Cuban-American Dr. Carlos Finlay), built roads and hospitals, kept them safe during WWII and the Cold War, turned the Canal over to Panama as a gift, sent in the Marines to get rid of Noriega after his henchman cracked Billy Ford’s skull during a presidential election, and then allowed Panama to sell rights to the Canal’s operations to the Chinese). Good to know on whose side FReepers like you are.

And so you like to visit Cuba and give the Castros some hard currency? How very nice of you. Maybe you can stay over there and swap stories about how terrible those “gusanos” are who left for America instead of staying behind while the government brainwashed their children—they’ve got plenty of mango trees, and I’ve heard that their healthcare system is *to die for*.

Stay classy, Craig.

That’s a shame, since posting on FR gives you a valuable respite from having to live with yourself. You should have another vacation in Havana ASAP so you can improve your self-esteem. (”Hey, I’m the best-dressed guy here!”)

And can you still get law degrees by clipping coupons from the back of comic books and mailing them in to the folks who sell sea monkeys? Good to know that they didn’t discriminate against your 125 LSAT.

>> “If you were four years old when your parents brought you here illegally, and you have grown up here your whole life and don’t even speak Spanish, and you are your high school’s valedictorian, you have a lot to contribute to our future. <<

Unless you rape and kill an American citizen, of course. Then liberals (and the mainstream media) will ALWAYS refer to you as a "mexican national" (instead of a "defacto American") and claim our country has absolutely NO say in your future and we need to do whatever your country of origin demands, out of respect for "international law"

Agree Rubio has turned out to be a disappointment. He's still 10X better than Crist, but conservatives better wise up about scrutinizing their choices, and stop stampeding to any candidate the moment they show up on the national scene and proclaim themselves as the "tea party" savior.

So, as I wrote, Rubio’s bill doesn’t create a path to citizenship.

This is just disingenuous on Rubios part. Once illegals are in the system there will be a huge clamor to change the Adjustment Of Status rules for the DREAM visa or whatever they will call it. Once AOS on a DREAM visa is allowed it is over. Game, set and match for La Rasa.

Rubio is playing a shell game. Don't be fooled. The end goal is full amnesty and EU style open borders.

>> Many criminal acts are unknown. Mexico does not have anything resembling a reliable criminal record system. "La mordida" (literal translation: "the bite") means you pay the police directly. <<

It means that if you rape and kill in Mexico. But I was referring to the kind of person Rubio mentioned, someone who was "four years old when your parents brought to the U.S. illegally, have grown up in the U.S. your whole life and don’t even speak Spanish, and are your high school’s valedictorian"

If a Mexican citizen with THAT background rapes and kills an american, they end up on death row in Texas. But instead of the DREAM act people treating them as "defacto Americans", they demand we "respect Mexico's laws" on the matter. Hypocrites.

I, for one, am sick of seeing Rubio's smug, self satisfied "we're taking over" face.

Rubio is obviously in servitude to Third World federales salivating over billions in US foreign aid Rubio and other vote-crazed pols will handout. We need to find out who is giving Rubio his orders from across the border.

Organized Third World voting blocs and pressure groups are rampaging Capitol Hill with their hands out as we type.

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Obama's plan says ....illegals will be "immune from deportation" if they have "no criminal history...."

TRYING TO CLEAN UP THEIR LEGAL STATUS IS A BIG BIG PROBLEM:

+++How many forged/faked Social Security numbers do they have?

+++How many fake identities do they have?

+++How many fake identities are they using to take money under false pretenses----riding the US gravy train?

+++Do they have valid drivers' licenses?

+++Have they ever been falsely claimed under different identities on IRS returns for EITC payouts?

REFERENCE----ICE's "documents and benefits fraud task force" found a common practice among "impoverished" illegals is to buy several forged/faked identities for several thousand dollars each----the illegal then votes and rides the US gravy train under several names.

<><> Jose Madrigal---the Washington state rapist--- had some 30 identities. And probably voted and collected US benefits under every single identity.

<><> Another illegal used multiple identites to bilk UI systems of some $3.5 million.

THANKS, OBAMA, FOR THE NEW VOTING BLOC PRIMED TO TAKEDOWN AMERICA

"Raza Studies" surfaced in AZ achools---it is a virulent anti-America agenda, a bloodthirsty dream by illegals to kill off US citizens:

One Raza Studies textbook titled “Occupied America,” by Rodolfo Acuña, includes a violent and blood- curdling speech given by university professor Jose Angel Gutierrez: “We have got to eliminate the gringo, and what I mean by that is if the worst comes to the worst, we have got to kill him,” (pg. 323).

Taken directly from Occupied America (pg. 167): “Supporters would execute all white males over age 16,” (this is AKA the Plan of San Diego).

America- hating Raza Studies teach violence and undermining US ntl security----and preaches the need for Mexico to "re-take seven states in the Southwest...in order to make the SW a Chicano nation.

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Adelita Grijalva is the woman on the Arizona school board pimping La Raza indoctrination study programs. in Tuscon schools.

America-hater Adelita is all up in arms about Raza Studies getting tossed via the AZ state legislature's action...Adelita is the daughter of Raul Grijalva (D-AZ-7) who was just narrowly re-elected to our US Congress.

Raul Grijalva is one of Mexico’s most productive and loyal representatives in our Congress....aiding and abetting building a Third World on US soil.

Mmmmmmm....those father daughter chats must be interesting.

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BTW, threatening to kill someone is a felony in the US----in Mexico it's a lottery winner (/snix).

RE :”I, for one, am sick of seeing Rubio’s smug, self satisfied “we're taking over” face. “

That is gone for a while. Obama just pre-empted Rubio’s amnesty plan with a much more limited version and now Rubio says he won't propose his for a vote this year.

Obama’s version, like most of what he does, was purely political just for the election to get Hispanics to vote, He poll tested his action which is limited and applies to a very narrow set of people who look like victims to general voters. It doesnt solve anything but scores him votes. He laid another clever trap for Republicsns who are scared to say they oppose it because they think it is bad policy, so they end up looking foolish again.

Rubio’s bill is a standard reform that would let illegals eventually apply for citizenship and the vote. This is a deal breaker for me. I has seen what massive ‘legal’ immigration under GWB (and Obama) has done to voting demographics in the suburbs. Large Republican areas now vote for the candy-man and who-ever proposes the most handouts. The Rovian theory that getting them a home loan turns them conservative was proved to be a pile of crap.

Point taken; that shows the double standards the Dream Act advocates have.

But I wanted to note, and I think you would agree, that no effective filter exists within the dream act itself, between those who have been back and forth across the border and those who were brought here as infants and never returned. In fact, I expect massive fraud would occur to meet its requirements. A great deal for immigration lawyers.

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