Posted on 06/12/2012 4:31:20 AM PDT by Rennes Templar
Police officers in Indiana are upset over a new law allowing residents to use deadly force against public servants, including law enforcement officers, who unlawfully enter their homes. It was signed by Republican Governor Mitch Daniels in March.
The first of its kind in the United States, the law was adopted after the state Supreme Court went too far in one of its rulings last year, according to supporters. The case in question involved a man who assaulted an officer during a domestic violence call. The court ruled that there was no right to reasonably resist unlawful entry by police officers.
The National Rifle Association lobbied for the new law, arguing that the court decision had legalized police to commit unjustified entries.
Tim Downs, president of the Indiana State Fraternal Order of Police, which opposed the legislation, said the law could open the way for people who are under the influence or emotionally distressed to attack officers in their homes.
Its just a recipe for disaster, Downs told Bloomberg. It just puts a bounty on our heads.
According to this could the Texas state authorities have intervened in the Waco stand off because the ATF was clearly violating the state rights of the residents in the compound.
Wouldn’t that have been a site to see. All the ATF and FBI agents getting surrounded by Texas Rangers and National Guard to force them to stand down and allow the Dividians to walk out.
She still had a right to call the cops ~ and they had a right to be secure in their persons ~ they don't lose their constitutional rights simply because they work for the government.
She still had a right to call the cops ~ and they had a right to be secure in their persons ~ they don't lose their constitutional rights simply because they work for the government.
No, that would be the "fairy tale."
Does the law say cops can’t come without a warrant or does it say homeowner/resident can use force to stop unlawful entry by cop [or anyone?]
I don’t understand the disconnect. I think everyone would agree that we need some restraint on the unlawful tactics used by LE in crashing down doors of the wrong house and not being accountable.
What makes you think this law will prevent officers from showing up when they’re called for help - that’s not an illegal entry.
Thanks for the info on Daniels’ background.
No, wifey should have.....
Unless he was beating her, this is another "chicken mcnuggets" call.
About d*mn time. Please God, let this go nationwide!
10 years ago there were few people more pro-cop than I was. I have seen them devolve into a hyper militarized street gang with a shoot first, screw the questions attitude. The war on (some) drugs caused it but my sympathy is tapped out. It’s time they got a clear message about their legitimate mission and who they work for.
Thank God.
Well played andyk, well played sir.
Perhaps this is just the beginning of “citizen safety” legislation.
Best post so far.
If the police do not have a natural respect for the person, property and rights of the citizenry it is perfectly appropriate to legislate it for them. In light of the wave of abuses that we’ve seen nationwide, anything that makes a LEO stop and consider the consequences of his actions is a good thing.
Dear Mr. Police Officer.
1. Make certain that you have a warrant.
2. Make sure you have the correct house.
3. Serve your warrant in a polite and professional manner. If you think I’m dangerous, serve it while I’m not home and get someone to pick me up away from the house.
4. Don’t shoot my dog.
5. In general, treat me like what I am - NOT GUILTY until convicted in a court of law.
We’ll get a long fine.
Private Citizen
If the cops weren’t acting like third-world death squads, this wouldn’t be necessary.
1. No warrant is needed if there is "probable cause".
2. It doesn't matter if you go to the wrong house if there is "probable cause" somewhere nearby.
3. If there is "probable cause" you can wait to serve a warrant to someone after he is cuffed and prone on his face. Or pin it to his cooling corpse.
4. Shooting family dogs is always covered by probable cause. Even if no crime had been reported and the policeman was on patrol.
5. You're kidding right? They have PROBABALE CAUSE!
This “little friend” is a husband, father, small business owner, home owner, and Church member.
As for tiring “of carrying around all that ammunition.”
It hasn’t happened in twenty years: I wouldn’t expect it anytime soon.
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