Posted on 06/02/2012 4:56:06 AM PDT by marktwain
A Lodi liquor store owner is under arrest, and the alleged shoplifter he shot was treated at the hospital and released.
Officers arrested the store owner, Gurminder “Gary” Parmar, and booked him into jail for assault with a deadly weapon.
"You have to be in fear for your life, and at this point we didn't see any indication that he was in fear for his life," said Officer Jim Pendergast, Lodi Police spokesperson.
Cops were called to Tokay Liquors in Lodi just before 10 p.m. Tuesday by a customer who said a robbery suspect was running away.
While investigating, they learned after the suspect took a 12 pack of bottled beer and was leaving the store.
The suspect was found a short time later three blocks from the store, with a gunshot wound to his shoulder and the beer. He was identified as 21-year-old Christopher Driggers, who is in active duty in the Army. Pendergast said Driggers indicated that he was AWOL and told officers he didn't have any money and intended to steal the beer.
Driggers was taken to the hospital for treatment, and Wednesday morning he was released. The district attorney will decide what, if any, charges Driggers will face.
In California, a person can use deadly force when their life or the life of someone around them is immediately threatened. According to Lodi Police, Driggers never had a weapon, or made any threats toward Parmar.
A friend of Parmar’s, who also owns several liquor stores in Stockton, said Parmar saw Driggers reach for his back pocket.
"He tried to pull something from the pocket and he got scared he might have some gun in the pocket," said Sukhdit Singh.
Singh said he's been robbed numerous times at gunpoint. One store was hit five times in broad daylight.
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If everyone shoplifted from me at will, I will go broke. If I go broke, I have no money. If I have no money I can no longer buy food. If I can no longer buy food, I will die. I was in fear of starving to death so I shot the person stealing from me.
As long as Tokay Liquors posted the sign, the owner should be alright. Did he post the sign?
Shoplifters will be shot. Survivors will be prosecuted.
SCREW CALIFORNIA!
What happened to "Stop or I'll shoot?"
Today it is let them take what they want or I'll call the cops or the ACLU. Business owners have fewer rights in today's world. The current government just wants to make sure that you are paying your fair share in taxes.
Only way we can change this is to effect a political revolution in this country. Throw all the socialist anti-American scum out of political office.
We have police shootings in Jax almost weekly where the dead suspect (who can tell no tales) is reported to have “refused police orders to show his hands.”
That’s all it takes, if you are a cop drawing a bead. Just state that the dead victim “looked like he might have been going for a gun.” Or he just “refused to show his hands.”
BANG! No problem. If you are a cop.
Yeah, and don’t think for two seconds these shoplifting morons don’t know their “rights”; EXACTLY what security guards, etc. can and cannot do.
My lady friend is third in command of a security company, runs all the guards (armed and unarmed) and the loss prevention officers covering a multi-state area. The stories I hear almost daily.......makes you just want to shake your head and emit a low whistle.
Oh, I see...
Store owners are double taxed in this day and age, not only directly by the government but by subsidizing those already on welfare through theft without recourse. Almost any attempt to apprehend a shoplifter is met with law suits and such. So in many places you can’t stop it and if you do you end up paying far more then the goods stolen ion damages and such to the thief or their family..
The suspect was a white man. The store clerk was not. I don’t think that it matters one way or the other but you don’t shoot someone (and perhaps kill him) for a property crime. The clerk shot the man, in the back, as he was running out of the store with the beer. There was no threat to the clerk.
Police are government workers. What do expect from government workers?
In a place like California, a liquor store owner should use a 1-2-3 defense. 1 being pepper spray, 2 a Taser, and 3 a gun. Optional 4, a knife.
The rationale is that liquor stores are frequent targets of snatch and dash, mostly for beer. Since beer is of relatively low value, some good old fashioned Pavlovian conditioning with pepper spray could be the cat’s pajamas.
The Taser is good for less than lethal problems that are more serious. It is the biggest gray area for use if the perp is unarmed, but still a serious pest.
And there, of course, are times when you just have to have a gun, known to us all.
Me, I love knives for in-fighting. Typically in cases like this, the perp wants to get over the counter and in the face, which is within the optimal utility of a gun but ideal for a knife.
Of course, this is just for California.
Some people, like me, disagree.
In fact, in my state I can shoot someone to protect my property.
/johnny
Basically, they are expecting gun owners to make expert decisions and to know the unknowable. When all of the facts are known in hindsight, of course one can usually conceive of a better course of action.
So if someone robs a store, the owner should not worry unless the robber pulls out a weapon. Should the store owner asked the robber if he had a gun? (ha ha). WTF? Robbery is a violent and aggressive act and the store owner has been robbed before at gunpoint and now this robbery is no big deal? This puts the store owner in a very difficult position. One could say, use a Taser, but that would not match a gun.
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