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I wonder if he told the police that he was in fear of his life?
1 posted on 06/02/2012 4:56:12 AM PDT by marktwain
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"You have to be in fear for your life, and at this point we didn't see any indication that he was in fear for his life,"
But if the victim is a "protected minority" and the assailant is white, they CAN read your mind and charge you with a hate crime.
Justice my @ss.
2 posted on 06/02/2012 5:06:30 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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If everyone shoplifted from me at will, I will go broke. If I go broke, I have no money. If I have no money I can no longer buy food. If I can no longer buy food, I will die. I was in fear of starving to death so I shot the person stealing from me.


3 posted on 06/02/2012 5:07:51 AM PDT by BipolarBob (Taglines for sale or rent.)
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As long as Tokay Liquors posted the sign, the owner should be alright. Did he post the sign?

Shoplifters will be shot. Survivors will be prosecuted.


4 posted on 06/02/2012 5:16:01 AM PDT by samtheman (select environmentalists with clue > 0 .... Result set: no rows returned)
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SCREW CALIFORNIA!


5 posted on 06/02/2012 5:20:37 AM PDT by Bubba (Kriss... firearm of choice for close encounters of the worst kind)
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Cops were called to Tokay Liquors in Lodi just before 10 p.m. Tuesday by a customer who said a robbery suspect was running away.

What happened to "Stop or I'll shoot?"

Today it is let them take what they want or I'll call the cops or the ACLU. Business owners have fewer rights in today's world. The current government just wants to make sure that you are paying your fair share in taxes.

6 posted on 06/02/2012 5:20:37 AM PDT by olezip
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In defense of the cops, they would have been suspended and then likely fired had they not arrested the shopkeeper. Otherwise, the police chief would have been fired by the mayor. Our entire system is broken - the cops just happen to be at the bottom of the food chain and made to do the dirty work.

Only way we can change this is to effect a political revolution in this country. Throw all the socialist anti-American scum out of political office.

7 posted on 06/02/2012 5:26:15 AM PDT by SamAdams76
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We have police shootings in Jax almost weekly where the dead suspect (who can tell no tales) is reported to have “refused police orders to show his hands.”

That’s all it takes, if you are a cop drawing a bead. Just state that the dead victim “looked like he might have been going for a gun.” Or he just “refused to show his hands.”

BANG! No problem. If you are a cop.


8 posted on 06/02/2012 5:27:37 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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"While investigating, they learned after the suspect took a 12 pack of bottled beer and was leaving the store. "

Oh, I see...

10 posted on 06/02/2012 5:32:16 AM PDT by Mr. K (I AM WRITING-IN PALIN/GINGRICH)
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The suspect was a white man. The store clerk was not. I don’t think that it matters one way or the other but you don’t shoot someone (and perhaps kill him) for a property crime. The clerk shot the man, in the back, as he was running out of the store with the beer. There was no threat to the clerk.


12 posted on 06/02/2012 6:19:06 AM PDT by old school
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Police are government workers. What do expect from government workers?


13 posted on 06/02/2012 6:32:45 AM PDT by vortigern
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Oh, Lord, stuck in Lodi again
14 posted on 06/02/2012 7:22:16 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (Extraneous Wind sends ...)
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In a place like California, a liquor store owner should use a 1-2-3 defense. 1 being pepper spray, 2 a Taser, and 3 a gun. Optional 4, a knife.

The rationale is that liquor stores are frequent targets of snatch and dash, mostly for beer. Since beer is of relatively low value, some good old fashioned Pavlovian conditioning with pepper spray could be the cat’s pajamas.

The Taser is good for less than lethal problems that are more serious. It is the biggest gray area for use if the perp is unarmed, but still a serious pest.

And there, of course, are times when you just have to have a gun, known to us all.

Me, I love knives for in-fighting. Typically in cases like this, the perp wants to get over the counter and in the face, which is within the optimal utility of a gun but ideal for a knife.

Of course, this is just for California.


15 posted on 06/02/2012 8:15:35 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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Basically, they are expecting gun owners to make expert decisions and to know the unknowable. When all of the facts are known in hindsight, of course one can usually conceive of a better course of action.
So if someone robs a store, the owner should not worry unless the robber pulls out a weapon. Should the store owner asked the robber if he had a gun? (ha ha). WTF? Robbery is a violent and aggressive act and the store owner has been robbed before at gunpoint and now this robbery is no big deal? This puts the store owner in a very difficult position. One could say, use a Taser, but that would not match a gun.


17 posted on 06/02/2012 8:51:15 AM PDT by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est; zero sera dans l'enfer bientot.)
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