[prof.h.mandingo]

Everybody’s panties are in a wad because of the use of the word “submissive”. Apparently from the thread so far no one have been married a long time. I got close to 30 years in. Was it always easy? No. Most of the time it was work but well worth it. We finish each others sentences etc.
In case you don't know the true secret is a woman who is smart enough to let her man “think” he controls things. Everyone who has been married and is truthful knows the woman controls you. The smart ones let you make a decision etc. and then they gently give you an alternate opinion. You sleep on it and low and behold “you” come up with HER option. It's your idea so it can't be wrong. IT is a standing joke in our house. Women rule but smart women let men think they run the ship. Conflict ensues when women aren't wise enough to give the guy his rope and gently drag him in later. Same with a horse.

[fr_freak]

Everyone who has been married and is truthful knows the woman controls you.

Maybe that is true in marriage these days. I couldn't say. I'm willing to bet it is not true in all marriages, though. I will say, however, that I find it disturbing to encounter a man who not only is controlled by his wife, but seems to be proud of the fact. Giving one's wife an equal say, if she is worthy of it, is fine by me. To each his own. However, blissfully describing oneself as being controlled by the wife seems to me to be an abdication of manhood. But, maybe abdication of manhood is what is required to be married in this feminist age, lest one get falsely accused of domestic violence, chucked in jail, and then raped in divorce court.

[trisham]

My husband and I will have been married for 29 years in November. :)

[Inspectorette]

In case you don't know the true secret is a woman who is smart enough to let her man “think” he controls things. Everyone who has been married and is truthful knows the woman controls you. The smart ones let you make a decision etc. and then they gently give you an alternate opinion. You sleep on it and low and behold “you” come up with HER option. It's your idea so it can't be wrong.

Oh noooooo!!! You've discovered my secret! Sure hope Mr. Inspectorette doesn't see this ;-)

[wintertime]

Conflict ensues when women aren’t wise enough to give the guy his rope and gently drag him in later. Same with a horse
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In happy marriages both are equally engaged in the same game. :-)

Wintertime ( who has been married to Prince Charming for 30 years.)

[fwdude]

Are you Greek?

[fwdude]

You're entirely missing the point, which is that men and women are fundamentally different - different in ways that make complementarity possible and beneficial. Big deal if, as you say, the woman plays games of "reverse psychology" on their "unwitting" husbands, that only proves the point. (Have you ever stopped to consider that maybe wives are being manipulated into thinking that THEY are getting their way - tit for tat?)

In almost every case, men are physically stronger than women. Men are more emotionally aloof and controlled, an asset in many cases in which pure rationality is absolutely needed to survive. Men are the natural leaders, when this is not the case marriages suffer, I believe.