Exclusive: Eloped? Elizabeth Warren's Parents Married in Religious Ceremony

breitbart.com ^ | 6/1/12 | Michael Patrick Leahy

[ColdOne]

Last night, in an interview with the Boston Globe, Elizabeth Warren claimed that her parents were forced to elope because her father’s family objected to her mother’s Native American heritage:

"In the 1930s, when my parents got married, these were hard issues,’’ Warren said. “My father’s family so objected to my mother’s Native American heritage that my mother told me they had to elope. [emphasis added]

Breitbart News has obtained a copy of what it believes to be Warrens' parents’ marriage certificate from Hughes County, Oklahoma, dated January 4, 1932. The marriage took place in Holdenville, Oklahoma, the county seat, located approximately 14 miles from Wetumpka, Oklahoma, which both the 21-year-old groom, Donald J. Herring, and 19-year-old bride, Pauline Reed, declared as their residence.

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Marriage Certificate of Elizabeth Warren’s parents, Donald Herring and Pauline Reed

According to the document, the marriage was performed by Sidney H. Babcock, pastor of the Methodist Episcopal Church South of Holdensville, Oklahoma.

Typically, couples that elope do not marry in a church, or in their place of residence.

[MCSP2008]

Salve

She is peace of work friend.

Merci.

[MCSP2008]

Salve Friend I think she has went over a bridge long ago, I think. Psychosis (from the Ancient Greek ψυχή "psyche", for mind/soul, and -ωσις "-osis", for abnormal condition or derangement) means abnormal condition of the mind, and is a generic psychiatric term for a mental state often described as involving a "loss of contact with reality". People suffering from psychosis are described as psychotic. Psychosis is given to the more severe forms of psychiatric disorder, during which hallucinations and delusions and impaired insight may occur.[2] Some professionals say that the term psychosis is not sufficient as some illnesses grouped under the term "psychosis" have nothing in common (Gelder, Mayou & Geddes 2005). Indeed, a complex constellation of neurological and psychological factors can result in the altered signalling observed in psychosis. In otherwise normal individuals, exogenous ligands can produce psychotic symptoms. NMDA receptor antagonists, such as ethanol and ketamine, can replicate a similar psychosis to that experienced in schizophrenia.[3] Prolonged or high dose use of psychostimulants will alter of function like the manic phase of bipolar disorder.[4] NMDA antagonists replicate some of the so called "negative" symptoms e.g., thought disorder in subanasthetic doses, and catatonia in high doses. Psychostimulants, especially in one already prone to psychotic thinking, can cause some "positive" symptoms, such as delusional beliefs, particularly those persecutory in nature. However, some positive symptoms lack a simple neurotransmitter-based explanation, specifically, the auditory hallucinations observed in schizophrenia. These have a much more complex genesis, involving abnormal synaptic plasticity, and the formation of a "parallel process" within the brain. Of specific interest is the entorhinal cortex, which has much less (indirect) connections to the tertiary auditory cortex, as well as direct connections to the hippocampus, the most active region of neurogenesis in the adult brain. The absence of layer IV in this portion of the temporal lobe means much less interneuronal "buffering" is present. As such, there are many more connections between the large pyramidal neurons of layer V and the relatively small pyramidal neurons of layer III. As such, the unique structure of this area allows its cortiocortical efferents, specifically layer III to layer I of the prefrontal cortex, to exert much excitatory, to the globally modulatory frontal lobe. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychosis Merci

[massgopguy]

So she is trying to play the “Her mothered suffered discrimination” card. For an ancestry that didn’t exist.

[X-spurt]

You would think someone would remind Liz about quit digging when finding oneself in a hole. Maybe she’s got some miner blood too.

With nobama beginning to take on water, klintoon/lanny davis/rendell saying nice about Mitt, looks like all dems are turning in circles not knowing which way to go.

[arthurus]

She is a Liberal therefore and ergo she truly believes these things are true, because she said they are true. To an intellectual liberal, reality is a mental construct and is whatever the liberal desires it to be. The weaker ones get all fumblemouthed trying to defend these Truths because somewhere back in the deepest recesses of their brains there is a wisp of doubt.

[BuckeyeTexan]

In Oklahoma people brag about their Cherokee blood.

That's the whole truth right there. I have family in Oklahoma. At every family reunion, someone is bragging about getting their membership card/number from The Cherokee Nation.

Come to think of it, that's where Breitbart needs to focus. Members of The Cherokee Nation get some extensive healthcare benefits and tuition grants.

[MCSP2008]

Salve

I think that woman needs to get some serious help my friend.

She is not happy to be white, she is insulting Native American Indians, she is some peace of work. Well I think she learned from the Master, who just insulted my best friends in Poland.

Liars don’t live to long before being expose.

All the people in media had to do is this:

Talk to me in your native language of your tribe?

Every Native American Indian speaks their dialect of their tribe, can she?

Truth is in a pudding.

Merci.

[arthurus]

Black Irish are mostly the descendants of the large number of Armada shipwrecked sailors that immigrated involuntarily in 1588.

[Little Bill]

The forage must have been better in the 1890’s than when my family went West in the late 1840’s in an Ox train, horses couldn't eat the grass. Then everyone walked, except those women that just dropped a kid. The death rate was about one in fifteen.

[WKUHilltopper]

Did her dad give her grandparents a pony to seal the marriage? If not, they may not have been legally married under Cherokee law.

[Portcall24]

It took about 5 minutes to find Pauline Reed in the 1920 census on Ancestry.Com. Here family is listed as Bud because of the poor penmanship but ancestry acknowledges it is Reed as the alternate. Her dad is Harry and her mom is Hennie but is listed as Honnie on the form. Guess what race? White! I’ll send to someone if they desire to post it.

[Brookhaven]

So, if Warrens’ mother was 1/6th Cherokee, the generations would go...

(0) WM (Warrens’ mother) = 1/16
(-1) WM parent = 1/8
(-2) WM grand parent = 1/4
(-3) WM great grand parent = 1/2
(-4) WM great great grand parent = 1 (full blooded)

So, Warrens’ mother was discriminated against because 4 generations back (her great great grand parent) was a Cherokee? This person probably DIED in the mid to late 1800’s (40 to 70 years before the “elopement”).

The timeline just doesn’t add up for this to have been a marriage show-stopper.

[Presbyterian Reporter]

“”So she is trying to play the “Her mothered suffered discrimination” card. For an ancestry that didn’t exist.””

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She is also saying her father’s family were bigots!!!!

[MCSP2008]

Salve

My friend, I will finish your great statement...For they know they have lie. That is the truth.

Merci

[Joe 6-pack]

"According to the document, the marriage was performed by Sidney H. Babcock, pastor of the Methodist Episcopal Church South of Holdensville, Oklahoma."

Did they serve "pow wow chow" at the reception?

[marron]

At every family reunion, someone is bragging about getting their membership card/number from The Cherokee Nation... Members of The Cherokee Nation get some extensive healthcare benefits and tuition grants.

Dang, maybe I should work on that too. I have just enough to be allowed to cross the state line, but probably not enough to get myself registered. I'd do it, though, just for the bragging rights if I could.

[Uri’el-2012]

She is a pathological liar.

Another fraud from Harvard Law.

[atomic_dog]

But eminently qualifies her for a seat in the US Senate, especially the “Ted Kennedy” seat,

[MCSP2008]

Salve

Thank you for your nice words.

Problem I have friend, if she is trying to take advantage in society by lies, then what is her deal insulting real Natives Indians...and American people. Does she think people are really that stupid???

Worst is she still trying to fight against fact she is a liar... I am just like shaking my head...

Merci

[BuckeyeTexan]

Hmmm. Traveling 14 miles in 1932 to marry lends more credence to the elopement not less.

Also that particular church is mentioned as being part of the Indian Mission Conference:

“History of the Indian Mission Conference of the Methodist Episcopal Church South, published by the Phoenix Printing Company, of Muskogee, in 1899, and now out of print, and loaned me by Rev. Sidney H. Babcock ...”

http://digital.library.okstate.edu/Chronicles/v004/v004p055.html

(Babcock is the pastor who married them.)