Posted on 05/28/2012 7:23:51 AM PDT by Daffynition
Police officers are trained manipulators. They take classes to learn how to read people’s body language and how to ask open-ended and innocent-sounding questions in order to surreptitiously obtain information they can use against you.
They also have a knowledge of the laws that you don’t possess — and laws differ from State to State, and even from one jurisdiction in a State to another. Police have also been known to invent “laws,” place “evidence” that can be linked to you and twist your words into meaning something you did not intend.
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The number one thing that makes me not trust cops in any way if being questioned is that they are allowed by law to lie. I cooperate with law enforcement fairly often, but I would clam up if I ever thought for an instant that I was being asked questions where I could be a subject.
“Watch those TV shows like Cops , Bait Car and P.O.V, you’ll see LOL”
You forgot “Investigation Discovery” and “Notorious”.
Those kinds of TV programs only reinforce my already-formed opinion that Big Brother’s thugs are nothing more than inept, incompetent, over-bearing, baton-wielding, gun-toting, power-hungry, power-wielding thugs, period.
If any policeman ever asks anything the best course is to refuse to answer until “I want a/my lawyer”.
Some people have lived in a home for more than a decade and seen individuals move into the area that eventually necessitated greater police presence. In that situation, was it the individuals fault for living there and not having the means to pick up roots and move? Should they have to pay more for the threat that befell them simply because They were minding their own business and had the bad luck of poor neighbors moving in?
BTW, I don’t think the police are there to protect you - they are generally there to file paperwork and look into things (if you’re lucky) after the fact. If you find an officer that actually takes the “to Protect and Serve” motto to heart, then you have found the exception...
I’m not trying to argue with you, that’s not my intent.
As my defense attorney cousin has told me many times “the police officer is not necessarily your friend.”
>>Now I have met individual officers who were exceptions to this. But not many.<<
From personal experience, those *old school* cops we grew up with and respected are gone now, replaced by the most testosterone driven bunch of yahoos imaginable.
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We should also be forthright and *know* to segregate our dogs from them whenever possible. #prudence
Wasn't that exactly what GOPJ was doing?
>>they are generally there to file paperwork and look into things (if you’re lucky) after the fact. <<
Which is why I call them *janitors*....they do little/nothing to prevent crime and are there for the *clean-up* after one has been committed.
“... those old school cops we grew up with...”
That is a major difference, Daffy. When I was a kid, there were several officers in our neighborhood. Regular, down to earth guys who did this as a job. They were no different than any other husband/Daddy in the neighborhood. Today, even the “look” is different. In my county/state.. the “look” is a shaved head. The uniforms are all black with black, leather boots (no more striped pants but more of a swat looking uniform). Granted... what today’s law enforcement deals with is a lot more complicated and rough (as compared to when I was a kid). However, the new “fear” look is intimidating.
I had one case where I was stopped in a drunk driver checkpoint. Being in full geek mode I was on my way home from studying on a saturday night. They shined a flashlight in my eyes and some rookie trainee kept basically accusing me of drinking.
After about 5 rounds of “so how much have you had to drink?” I finally broke down and confessed to having had a can of coke.
At this point the more senior guy who seemed to be the trainer said “hmm - a coke sounds pretty good to me”. Then he looked at the rookie and basically said “not this guy - better move to the next in line”. At which point they took my paperwork and more or less shoved it in my hand and said “get out of here”.
I was less than impressed.
when confronted by police... only 3 things to say..
Do you have a warrant?
No, you cannot come in or search...
Please leave now..
If you invite the police into your home, you have given them consent to search...
these are your lifesavers..
Top 5 ways to avoid arrest:
1) Obey the law
2) Obey the law
3) Obey the law
4) Obey the law
5) Obey the law
Legally and practically, the sheriff seems to be a better choice than a police dept., much less the HSI, etc.
http://www.ice.gov/about/offices/homeland-security-investigations/
“... the worst police can usually do is to arrest you...”
About ten years back, my siblings and I were selling my Mom’s home (after her passing). One offer was accepted by a drug cop. Long story short, after the settlement and he moved into the home.. he called my sibling and demanded ten thousand dollars for ants. Yes, ants. The home had been fully inspected and the ants were simply because the house had a great deal of trees around it. This was explained to him and rejected. Long story short, he showed up at my brother’s home and coerced the ten grand out of us. How? He made it very clear that he knew what his sons drove, the tags, where they went to school and the route they took to get there. He then said, “It would be a terrible thing if your kids were ever pulled over and they found drugs. It would ruin their lives”. The threat was as clear as the nose on your face.
Immediate family meeting and I was the only one to say, “We shouldn’t cave”. I felt that if we gave the ten grand, he would come back again and again. I was out-voted and we all gave enough money to cover the extortion. We still had neighbors in that area who told us afterwards he gloated when he purchased new appliances and a shed thanks to us. I don’t condemn my siblings especially the one who was protecting his kids. He knew that their lives would be ruined (two were up for scholarships). What really, REALLY jaded me was a few years after that incident, this same cop got a county award for heroism (apparently arrested someone with a lot of drugs). I still wonder if he didn’t plant them or have some of his friends plant them... guess I’ll never truly know.
Isn't this what a Security Guard does; Observe and Report?
Obeying the law doesn’t matter when interpreted by a moron with a gun and authority. FHP searched my car two weeks ago. Nothing found and my rights were violated. Nowhere to go... im ex-leo and still say f the police...
1) Obey the law
Tell that to George Zimmerman.
Imagine hiring robots who accurately and evenly enforced every law...
The fancy term is "argument from silence fallacy" -- if no alternative or refutation is offered, the original statement must be true.
Agreed. Politicians are tampering with justice, in GZ’s case.
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