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1 posted on 05/28/2012 3:36:52 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: afraidfortherepublic
The author ends his essay with these words:
We should all fear for our Republic.
Obviously, I concur (see screenname).
2 posted on 05/28/2012 3:43:13 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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Alexander Hamilton was the original ‘Big Government” guy. He would’ve been very happy to see how the grand experiment turned out.


3 posted on 05/28/2012 3:45:52 AM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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The part of this article that scares me the most is the report that Hamilton advocated taking on States’ debt under some circumstances. Scares the bejezus out of me.

I'm sure in his time, most in government were on the plus side of honorable, unlike today. The scale of debt in blue states like California, et al is staggering - they are run nowhere near anyone with any sense would call honorable.

True, he felt it was for the collective good will and camaraderie, etc. and that it would foster a common will, but we as a nation are about as fractured as a nation could be. Truthfully, I doubt whether I, maybe many like me, will ever want anything to do with California, Massachusetts, etc...again.

4 posted on 05/28/2012 3:59:47 AM PDT by Gaffer
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Great piece.


6 posted on 05/28/2012 4:10:06 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: afraidfortherepublic
The Lesson of Alexander Hamilton

Hmmmmm ...

I always thought that the lesson of Alexander Hamilton was that dueling over honor with large-caliber pistols was a good way to get yourself killed.
29 posted on 05/28/2012 6:53:11 AM PDT by tanknetter
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Lesson # 1. Know your weapon. Hamilton's dueling pistol had an unknown trigger set (not found till the pistol was disassembled back in the early 1980s).

It is believed he set the trigger, then accidentally brushed it causing his weapon to fire before he was on target (Burr).

Burr then shot him dead.

32 posted on 05/28/2012 7:44:40 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Anything Goes, Phantom of the Opera, Nice work if you can get it, EVITA. On BROADWAY last week.!)
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The ten-dollar bill features Alexander Hamilton on the front.

For the past couple months, after discovering that all the bank tellers that I dealt with had no idea as to who that was on the ten-dollar bill, I have asked people--where appropriate--about that drawing on the bill, and I would estimate that maybe 5 percent knew that it was Alexander Hamilton.

As for the others, when told who it was (although the name appears below the engraving), usually I got a blank stare. They had no idea as to the role Alexander Hamilton played in our country's history. Yep, the teachers are doing a bang-up job in teaching the children about the Founding Fathers.

35 posted on 05/28/2012 7:46:41 AM PDT by OldPossum (I)
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This turns out to be a long and learned thread, yet all I could think of was “Don’t get into a duel with someone who is a better shot that you.”


49 posted on 05/28/2012 11:32:37 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Obama considers the Third World morally superior to the United States.)
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To: afraidfortherepublic; indcons; Chani; thefactor; blam; aculeus; ELS; Doctor Raoul; mainepatsfan; ...
Thanks for posting, afraidfortherepublic.

Well, it's nice to see that the Federalist/Anti-Federalist, Hamilton/Jefferson debate continues on after >225 years. However, the point the author of the article was attempting to make was the lesson Hamilton taught about fiscal responsibility, and the need for a new nation to pay off its debts (otherwise, other nations would not be willing to loan money in times of national emergency, for one good reason).

Before I continue, please note that I do not like Jefferson; there are many reasons for this, but the one that put the tin hat on it for me was his having started the rumor that President Washington was suffering from age-related dementia. Although TJ had always been a rumor-monger (he took notes during dinners of what people were saying), this was over the line. Washington confronted him in 1796 about this, and Jefferson denied it (lied). Washington knew the truth, and never spoke to TJ again after this.

Hamilton was, as Adams said, '...the bastard son of a Scottish peddler..." and maybe that wasn't such a bad thing. He was running an import-export business on his own in St. Croix at the age of 14. His background was in business...he was weaned on it.

Hamilton was not only brilliant, but incredibly brave. As a gallant NY Artillery officer and former chief of staff for Gen. Washington (although there was no such term then), he was rewarded by the General with the most dangerous command and assignment at Yorktown. Jefferson's record during the RevWar was--how shall we say it--a bit less valiant.

And to those posters who try to portray Hamilton as the 18th century equivalent of big government Barack Obama, I say, with all due respect, bollocks. The Whiskey Tax was ill-conceived and a msitake, to be sure, (it put much too much burden on the farmers west of the Appalachians) but Hamilton thought it was the best measure at the time since he felt he could not raise import taxes any more.

"Assumption" of the national debt by the new federal government had been a contentious issue for some time, and early in Washington's first term he told Hamilton and Jefferson to compromise and get it done. They had dinner together on Maiden Lane in NYC (Jefferson's apartment), and I believe Madison was in attendance. Jefferson may have had many reasons for being against assumption, but one was surely the fact that Virginia was one of the few nascent states that had paid off a good deal of its debt, and he felt the other states should do the same.

Ultimately, assumption won, and Hamilton had to allow Jefferson's demand that the capitol of the new country be moved south--first to Philadelphia and then to a new place on the Potomac.

With all this being said, big gummint back then was very different from the behemoth that we have now. Hamilton AND Jefferson would be aghast at what is going on now.

Hamilton's vision for this country was a forward-looking one of dynamic trade and economic growth; Jefferson's was backward-looking and agrarian. Jefferson was born into the landed gentry of Virginia; Hamilton was an orphan who worked his way up via his brains and bravery.The RevWar/Colonial History/General Washington ping list...

50 posted on 05/28/2012 12:52:32 PM PDT by Pharmboy (Democrats lie because they must.)
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bmfl


71 posted on 05/29/2012 4:48:40 AM PDT by Moltke (Always retaliate first.)
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“We should all fear for our Republic.”

I certainly fear for it..... I already miss it.

I feel as if I am sitting on my couch, watching thieves go through my house taking anything they want, while I write letters to my friends telling them how upset I am.


111 posted on 05/31/2012 1:40:22 PM PDT by Gator113 (***YOU GAVE it to Obama. I would have voted for NEWT.~Just livin' life, my way~)
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Self-pinging for a longer read tomorrow.

Thanks for the post.


159 posted on 06/06/2012 9:23:20 PM PDT by eddie willers
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I was at the gym this weekend and saw this article: Alexander Hamilton, Federalist Hunk.

Apparently, the Hamilton on the new $10 bill has his admirers, and some college girls have been rather too into Hamilton and the other founders for some time now.

171 posted on 06/11/2012 2:40:23 PM PDT by x
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