Trayvon's killer said to make self-incriminating statements

CNBC / Reuters ^ | May 24, 2012 | Tom Brown and Philip Barbara

[2ndDivisionVet]

Neighborhood watch captain George Zimmerman made statements to police that help establish his guilt in the second-degree murder case against him for killing unarmed black teenager Trayvon Martin, prosecutors said in a court filing on Thursday.

The claim came in a motion by prosecutors to keep some of Zimmerman's statements under seal pending his trial in a case that triggered civil rights protests across the United States, while sparking widespread debate over guns, self-defense laws and U.S. race relations.

"Defendant (Zimmerman) has provided law enforcement with numerous statements, some of which are contradictory, and are inconsistent with the physical evidence and statements of witnesses," the prosecutors said in their court filing.

They said the statements by Zimmerman were admissible in court and "in conjunction with other statements and evidence help to establish defendant's guilt in this case."

The court filing offered no details about the statements Zimmerman made to police or other law enforcement officials. It said Florida's public records law had no provision requiring "the disclosure of a confession" of a defendant....

[Ken H]

‘You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say can and will be twisted and used against you by unscrupulous prosecutors.’

[Conscience of a Conservative]

the prosecutor withheld evidence.....she better start lawyer’n up

No, the prosecutor didn't withhold evidence. This motion is simply the prosecutor, joined by the defense, seeking to keep certain evidence (which has already been turned over to the defense) from being released publicly. The prosecution has a duty to turn over evidence to the defense, not to the public.

[jafojeffsurf]

Zimmerman could not have killed him. After all the gun did it right? Are they not the whole problem so say the left?

[kanawa]

"inconsistent with the physical evidence and statements of witnesses"

So how did investigators overlook such obvious pieces of evidence the first time?

Witness statements have, ahem... evolved.

http://www.examiner.com/article/witness-tampering-trayvon-martin-case

[Conscience of a Conservative]

So how did investigators overlook such obvious pieces of evidence the first time?

1) They didn't - the initial investigator recommended charges (manslaughter, I believe)

2) This motion doesn't say when Zimmerman made these "contradictory" statements. It could have been after Corey's office took the case over.

[Rome2000]

Tom Brown and Philip Barbara are red fag minor league propagandists.

May the fate that befell their hero Joe Goebbels and his family pale in comparison to the well deserved fate that awaits them.

[Doogle]

http://www.conservativecommune.com/2012/05/derschowitz-says-george-zimmerman-prosecutor-illegally-withheld-evidence/

[Ken H]

1) They didn't - the initial investigator recommended charges (manslaughter, I believe)

So why wasn't he charged?

[ScreamingFist]

ZIMMERMAN IS GOING DOWN! He will die in prison stabbed by a black inmate who will emit the soulful cry "THIS IS FOR TRAYVON!"

No, he's not. He'll walk, and thousands of dumfounded dipsh@t's will run around and burn their own stores and apartments down. Just like an LA Lakers victory/loss. This isn't 1991, everyone has the internet now. The MSM can try all they want, but when Alan Dershowitz (pride of the American left) says the man is innocent....it's over.

[sarasmom]

I have not seen anything to date hinting of Zimmerman ever once denying he shot and killed Martin.

It will be interesting to see what, if any, additional evidence the prosecution claims to have, that justified charging him with 2nd degree murder.

(off topic, my stolen car was recovered, but I saw no evidence of any attempt by LEOs to gather fingerprints either inside or outside the vehicle)

[ought-six]

Ah, but in our legal system, the prosecution must by law give the defense whatever it has. In our system one is innocent until proven guilty, and the burden of proving guilt is on the prosecution (i.e., the State), and that’s the way it should be.

[Williams]

Ok despite all the hysterics here (and I generally support Z), it was quite clear at the bail hearing that the prosecution planned to rely on iconsistencies in Z’s statements.

Also, sealing the records appears to be supported by both sides. The evidence is not withheld from the defense.

The only possibly outrageous thing I saw here is referring to these statements as a “confession”. Had Z truly confessed to anything he would have been charged long ago.

Z certainly did not “murder” TM. However, he is in jeopardy on a lesser charge. One could question his decision to shoot when he did. That would be based on a claim he instigated the fight (I doubt he did) followed by whether he reasonably thought his life was in danger. That one is a closer call.

[GeorgeWashingtonsGhost]

The black community will also threaten Angela Corey.. All the way from the White House and the DOJ.

[nerdwithagun]

A 17 year old kid's hands are plenty to bludgeon and strangle another man to death. Considering Trayvon did indeed hit and pound his head against pavement, I say the law is backwards if it doesn't allow use of deadly force. Much to big of a burden someone being attacked

[Jaded]

The “contradictory” statements... that was brought up at the bond hearing. This makes my head ache.

[heartwood]

The one thing that struck me about Zimmerman’s account, even when I was in the anti-Zimmerman camp, was its consistency with himself, with the other witnesses, with the physical evidence - the only inconsistency was that he got out of the car to look at a street sign, but nothing else, and one inconsistency is understandable, for a human being under stress.

[patriot08]

While the Zimmerman/Martin ‘white’ on black killing is covered 24/7 on the MSM with an outpouring of rage and charges of a racial hate crime, where is the concern- where is the rage about the home invasion, torture, beating, rape and murder of the elderly white couple by a gang of feral blacks in Oklahoma just a few weeks ago?

The 90 year old war veteran husband was beaten and his jaw broken. He was shot in the face numerous times with a BB gun and sent to the hospital in critical condition.

The 85 year old partially blind wife was RAPED and then BEATEN TO DEATH.

Can you just imagine the pain, the humiliation, the horror that dear old lady experienced being gang raped by that pack of feral animals?

(the autopsy states she was raped. Don’t think all of these animals didn’t all participate)

And can you imagine the pain, the horror of that dear old husband having to witness this?

Mr. Strait died from his injuries last week.

There’s a lot more involved here than a home invasion and robbery.

WHERE ARE THE CHARGES OF A RACIAL HATE CRIME??

90 year old husband’s jaw broken and shot in face with a BB gun numerous times?

85 wife year old semi blind wife RAPED and BEATEN to death??

Why does it take a foreign press to enlighten America as to this henious crime?

WHERE IS THE NATIONAL OUTRAGE?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2117695/Brutal-home-invasion-Oklahoma-couple-ends-65-year-romance-meeting-blind-date.html

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Have they caught the rest of the gang of feral blacks who raped, tortured and murdered this elderly woman? Are they even looking? Not a word about it in the media.

[StAnDeliver]

"Neighborhood watch captain George Zimmerman made statements to police that help establish his guilt in the second-degree murder case against him for killing unarmed black teenager Trayvon Martin, prosecutors said in a court filing on Thursday."

Yeaaaah, that's why the police let him go the first time.

You got noteeng, Corey.

[StAnDeliver]

"Last year Martin was suspended for spraying graffiti on school grounds. The Miami Herald reported that the school guard who stopped him searched his backpack and found 12 items of women's jewelry and a flathead screwdriver that the guard believed to be a "burglary implement."

[StAnDeliver]

The MSM is soon to pick up on this concurrent case Corey has going...very telling that she's trying to force a plea from a "white Hispanic" 12-year-old that she charged as an adult.

Cristian Fernandez case

"In 2011 Corey's office oversaw a case in which 12-year-old Cristian Fernandez was accused of killing his two-year-old brother. Corey sought and received a grand jury indictment Fernandez on charges of homicide and aggravated child abuse, and decided to try him as an adult.[13] This move, which made Fernandez the youngest person ever to face a murder charge in Jacksonville's history, drew criticism and protests to send the case to juvenile court instead,[14] but Corey held that the juvenile system was inadequate to handle a crime of this magnitude.[15] However, Corey stated she did not intend for Fernandez to stand trial or serve a life sentence, but would rather accept a plea deal.[16] As of February 1, 2012 the defense and prosecution had not agreed to a plea deal, but were still in discussion. A trial was scheduled for February 27, 2012, but was postponed until September 10, 2012.[17]"